Adolf Hitler

Finnigan, I wish to slap you right now. Secondly, the question asked if he was bad, not evil. They are two different words, and if you wish, I will look up the definitions. Which I will do.

Bad-below average in quality or performance
evil-that which causes harm or destruction or misfortune

Did he preform bad? No, he preformed his actions perfectly well. His quality of work was perfect, except he challenged Russia, big mistake. So, as you see, he is evil, but not necisarily bad.
 
The objective fact is that he was a good public speaker and must have realized it, and believed in trying to purify the human race (which meant getting rid of everyone that wasn't Aryan in his eyes), and felt that he was doing the right thing for God and followed through with what he believed. As for asking if he's a good, bad or evil person, that's entirely subjective and entirely up to you whether or not you want to believe he is good, bad or evil since "good", "bad" and "evil" are loosely defined.
 
well actually hitler is going to heaven cause it was not him that was killing all the jews it was the NAZI's.So which really makes hitler not a bad person after all since he didn't kill anyone.
 
Meikyousisui said:
No its true maybe if u guys read up on the history like me u would have known that hitler never killed any jews.
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Well maybe you should read all post in this topic before posting, we have discusted that, and only because he didn't do it himself doesn't means that he is not directly responsable for those deaths
 
QuickSilverD said:
Well maybe you should read all post in this topic before posting, we have discusted that, and only because he didn't do it himself doesn't means that he is not directly responsable for those deaths
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well u r right i should have read the other psot b4 i had to actually post.Hitler was responsible for the deaths that does not mean that he kill them it was those friken NAZI's.
 
Same difference. Hitler intended to have those Jews dead, and that's all that matters. It's not who killed the Jews that matters because they wouldn't have done it if Hitler didn't tell them to.
 
Hitler was Head Nazi - which means he created and controlled all the others - so i fail to see how the nazis are worse than Hitler or even fall into a different catogory o_0

btw im doing a history project on Nazi germany at the moment and this threds proving to be very informative :lol:
 
Aeris Gainsborough said:
Hitler was Head Nazi - which means he created and controlled all the others - so i fail to see how the nazis are worse than Hitler or even fall into a different catogory o_0

btw im doing a history project on Nazi germany at the moment and this threds proving to be very informative :lol:
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Yes, it's compulsary GCSE shiznit.

We're about to finish it

Gaaramaster said:
Finnigan, I wish to slap you right now. Secondly, the question asked if he was bad, not evil. They are two different words, and if you wish, I will look up the definitions. Which I will do.

Bad-below average in quality or performance
evil-that which causes harm or destruction or misfortune

Did he preform bad? No, he preformed his actions perfectly well. His quality of work was perfect, except he challenged Russia, big mistake. So, as you see, he is evil, but not necisarily bad.
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*facepalm* Must you be picky with the use of words, You know what I meant when I say it, therefore no need to be so pissy about it.

I can't stand it when people do that. :dry:

As you say he shouldn't have invaded russia, it was a BAD idea, he was a BAD military leader and the people were turning against him so he was a BAD leader of the people.

He was BAD and EVIL, stop being so pedantic.
 
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Since the translation of the German word "Kampf" has multiple interpretations and is generally derived from connotation (which is difficult as the only surrounding word is "Mein"), I generally translate it however I see fit at the time.

I would speculate though that "My War", to quote Henry Rollins of Black Flag, is perhaps the most accurate translation.
 
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That's weird considering the German word for plan is plan. And every translator I can find translates Mein Kampf as My Struggle too.
 
Mein Kampf translates directly as "My Struggle". There's no question of this. "My War" is a very direct translation, as is "My Fight". Struggle likely best embodies the meaning he intended.
 
well it's been a while since i've studied German history but hey i'll throw my two cents in anyway.

Basically, Germany was crying out for Hitler. They had their economic problems along with poverty and still suffering the setbacks from the first World War. Nazism was the people's party and because of that, Hitler as leader of the party said all the right things to swing the people in his favour. They could do nothing else BUT vote for him from all the things he was saying.

When he finally obtained power, he began expanding Germany, he annexed Czechoslovakia and kept on moving outwards in his desperate attempt of power struggle. He provided War for Germany, and War does wonders to any economy. Germany picked up and the people loved him.

Of course, he wanted to stay in power and he killed off the opposition. Literally, no one was getting in his way. With the Gestapo, Hitler ruled Germany with terror. He blamed the Jews for anything, regardless of how he was treated in the past, Hitler made himself out to be a martyr.

He was not as badly treated as he wrote in Mein Kampf, he was born in a low-to-middleclass society. Mein Kampf was more of a political tool more than anything, to rouse support for Hitler and Nazism as a whole.

from what I understood, there was no real reason to hate the Jews from Hitler's perspective. He just viewed them as evil and as a christian, he hated them because of differing believes and he targeted them.

The Holocaust is what makes him evil.
Declaring war and claiming control over different countries is what makes him evil.

He was a very educated man, a brilliant politician with a warped mind.

He was Evil
 
It's a tough situation to understand, because it is an incredibly different time and society than our own.

The treaty of Versailles had a very specific clause in it (The War Guilt Clause) which specified that Germany alone was responsible for the outbreak of the war. Now, as soon as the treaty was put in place, most academics and leaders acknowledged that it was pretty ridiculous: clearly everyone had some responsibility for the war.

However, what the War Guilt clause did was tell Germans that their war losses (2 million people) had died for some ignoble, pointless reason.

By the 1920s, with the German economy still in ruins and the Weimar republic (the Post-monarchist german government) was unstable. A brilliant prof of mine once said that it created the conditions needed for the German psych to accept insane ideas like "The Stab in the Back" theory...that the Germans were, in fact, on the verge of winning the war in 1918 until they were betrayed by disloyal people (ultimately, Hitler identified the Jews as this group) on the homefront.

Hitler's personal religious beliefs had very little to do with it. Anti-Antisemitism had been a characterization of central Europe for a long time, and it fit perfectly with what people wanted to think about The War To End All Wars.

I will just point out that the economic boons Germany gained under Hitler (the cuts to unemployment, the end of double digit inflation, industrialization etc.) may be good things in and of themselves, but they were done specifically to defy arms limitations and prepare the Reich to be the dominant military power in central Europe. As nice as they were, they were being done for ungood reasons. That, and it was all bombed out in 1945 anyway.

I therefore submit that Hitler was not a very nice person, regardless of some of his perceived positive contributions to Germany.
 
I don't think Hitler was so bad.. Heres why.

My Oma (german grandmother) told me that the reason why Hitler hated the jews was because when Hitlers mother was sick, and she was in the hospital, the doctors (who were jewish) couldn't save her, and thus developed his hated towards them.

On a side note, Hitler has always reminded me of a real life Kefka. They both poisoned innocents, and tried to destroy the world (in a way). They also both had a legion of soldiers and had a silly gimmick (Kefka had his laugh, Hitler and his men had that most absurd march and salute).

Also, my Oma and Opa (german grandfather) have told me that Hitler was very, very kind to his people, he was very nice and treated his children (the Hitler Youth, I believe) with care and gentleness. So I think the only people who should be mad with Hitler are the people that were directly affected by his actions; family members falling vitcim, if you jewish. You know.
 
the bad thign about him, was the lack of humanity you would have to have to be able to do those kinds of things to another human, sending familys to thier deaths after being brought to concentration camps, and slaughtered without mercy. it's the thought of what those people had to of gone thorugh, though no-one that wasn't there really can't understand it, people Can understand that it was a crime agaisnt humanity.
 
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