Iconoclast012
Newbie
Hey guys, I guess I'm a little late on beating the game considering I've had it since launch day...then again I did put 96 hours into it and took my time to make sure I saw everything and found everything. I'm sort of a completionist when it comes to games like this.
Anyway, I just finished the game last night and obviously the game was great. If it wasn't, I wouldn't have invested over 90 hours into it. However, I can't help but notice that a lot of things in the story were either just not properly explained, not fully explained, not explained at all or maybe it's because the story has so many details and twists that it can be overwhelming. I did the best I could to follow everything that was going on....even read the datalog after each event to make sure I stayed on the right track so everything would come together....but a lot of things just didn't..
Now, some of my questions may seem silly to someone who totally understands the story, or maybe I missed some things along the way, but bare with me because every one of my questions is a serious one...and yes I don't know the answers.
So, here goes....
1) Are Barthandelus and Ophran two seperate Fal'cie or are they one in the same?
2) Is Barthandelus the only Fal'cie who wanted to destroy Cocoon in order to bring back "the maker" or was it all of them? Is Barthandelus the "traitor" fal'cie or is orphan the traitor?
3) If Barthandelus wants Cocoon destroyed and Orphan wants to die, why do they do their best to try and kill you throughout the game? If they want to die, why don't they just tell you they want to die and get it over with already? Why do they put you through so much trouble if they just want you to kill them. All of their mind games seem so unnecessary if all they want to do is to die....
4) Does killing Orphan destroy the other sanctum Fal'cie also? Such as Phoenix and Carbuncle? Phoenix plays the part of the Sun and Carbuncle controls the food supply. So...if they're gone too....wouldn't Cocoon still be doomed anyway?
5) Who is the Fal'cie Eden and what are it's intentions? I don't believe it is ever shown in the game. It's mentioned but I don't believe you ever see it.
6) Why does Fang try to kill Vanille before the last battle?
7) If the focus of becoming Ragnarok is to destroy Cocoon why does Ragnarok end up saving Cocoon? Why does Barthandelus/Orphan not know and anticipate this fact?
8) Why do Fang and Vanille BOTH become Ragnarok? I assumed only one L'cie could become Ragnarok.
9) What is the real difference between sanctum fal'cie and pulse fal'cie?
10) What sparked the war of transgression 500 years earlier?
11) If the majority of the human inhabitants of Pulse were turned into Cie'th during the war of transgression then how did so many humans end up making it to Cocoon?
12) Did Barthandelus build Cocoon or did all of the Fal'cie build cocoon?
13) Why were the human inhabitants of Pulse trying to destroy Cocoon 500 years earlier?
14) Were there humans on Cocoon 500 years earlier or did they all live on Pulse?
15) How long has Cocoon been floating in the sky above Pulse and what was the main purpose of building it? To harbor humans for hundreds of years just so they could all be slaughtered? Why would the Fal'cie go to so much trouble building something so massive if they were just going to destroy it? Why didn't they just destroy the original Pulse inhabitants instead to bring back their maker? The fal'cie motives don't really make a lot of sense....
(16 Why can't the Fal'cie carry out their own actions? Why do they need L'cie slaves to do their work for them? If they are half-gods they should be able to do anything they want, right? What's stopping them?
17) If Orphan just wants to die, then why can't it just kill itself or ask for the aid of another fal'cie? Why do they need humans to do their work for them?
18) Why are the events of the war of transgression never fully explained?
19) Why did Fang and Vanille fail their focus 500 years earlier? And, if they failed it, why did they enter crystal stasis instead of being turned into Cie'th?
20) When Fang and Vanille become Ragnarok during the ending and save cocoon by wrapping it in crystal, I assume this means they completed their previously failed focus from 500 years earlier? I thought their focus was to destroy it, not prevent it from falling?
21) When Fang and Vanille enter crystal stasis AGAIN after becoming Ragnarok in the ending cutscene and stopping Cocoon from crashing into the ground, doesn't that only mean they will wake up from Stasis in another few-hundred years and it will just fall anyway?
22) This "maker" character is never explained much at all. Why did he create fal'cie? How long have the fal'cie been around? Have they been around as long as the human inhabitants of Pulse or are they "foreign invaders" or aliens so-to-speak?
23) For being half-gods the fal'cie seem to be constrained by A LOT of rules....why is this?
24) Is your party really turned into Cie'th before the final battle or is that just more illusionary tricks from barthandelus?
25) After Ragnarok wraps Cocoon in a protective crystal barrier and stops it from falling during the ending cutscene, all of your party members appear to be in crystal stasis...then magically they're not all of a sudden...what gives?
As much as I liked this game and the storyline, I felt that a lot of it was either just poorly explained or not fully explained. I managed to follow it pretty well throughout the game, but after the final credits I just had a "shrug your shoulders" feeling and tons of unanswered questions. I felt like the game just didn't tie up a ton of loose ends or fully explain itself. I could probably ask 25 more questions... Maybe I'm just an idiot, but this is one of the only storylines I've followed in my entire life that I've had trouble putting together in the end.... And I've read some pretty complicated storylines.
Anyway, I just finished the game last night and obviously the game was great. If it wasn't, I wouldn't have invested over 90 hours into it. However, I can't help but notice that a lot of things in the story were either just not properly explained, not fully explained, not explained at all or maybe it's because the story has so many details and twists that it can be overwhelming. I did the best I could to follow everything that was going on....even read the datalog after each event to make sure I stayed on the right track so everything would come together....but a lot of things just didn't..
Now, some of my questions may seem silly to someone who totally understands the story, or maybe I missed some things along the way, but bare with me because every one of my questions is a serious one...and yes I don't know the answers.
So, here goes....
1) Are Barthandelus and Ophran two seperate Fal'cie or are they one in the same?
2) Is Barthandelus the only Fal'cie who wanted to destroy Cocoon in order to bring back "the maker" or was it all of them? Is Barthandelus the "traitor" fal'cie or is orphan the traitor?
3) If Barthandelus wants Cocoon destroyed and Orphan wants to die, why do they do their best to try and kill you throughout the game? If they want to die, why don't they just tell you they want to die and get it over with already? Why do they put you through so much trouble if they just want you to kill them. All of their mind games seem so unnecessary if all they want to do is to die....
4) Does killing Orphan destroy the other sanctum Fal'cie also? Such as Phoenix and Carbuncle? Phoenix plays the part of the Sun and Carbuncle controls the food supply. So...if they're gone too....wouldn't Cocoon still be doomed anyway?
5) Who is the Fal'cie Eden and what are it's intentions? I don't believe it is ever shown in the game. It's mentioned but I don't believe you ever see it.
6) Why does Fang try to kill Vanille before the last battle?
7) If the focus of becoming Ragnarok is to destroy Cocoon why does Ragnarok end up saving Cocoon? Why does Barthandelus/Orphan not know and anticipate this fact?
8) Why do Fang and Vanille BOTH become Ragnarok? I assumed only one L'cie could become Ragnarok.
9) What is the real difference between sanctum fal'cie and pulse fal'cie?
10) What sparked the war of transgression 500 years earlier?
11) If the majority of the human inhabitants of Pulse were turned into Cie'th during the war of transgression then how did so many humans end up making it to Cocoon?
12) Did Barthandelus build Cocoon or did all of the Fal'cie build cocoon?
13) Why were the human inhabitants of Pulse trying to destroy Cocoon 500 years earlier?
14) Were there humans on Cocoon 500 years earlier or did they all live on Pulse?
15) How long has Cocoon been floating in the sky above Pulse and what was the main purpose of building it? To harbor humans for hundreds of years just so they could all be slaughtered? Why would the Fal'cie go to so much trouble building something so massive if they were just going to destroy it? Why didn't they just destroy the original Pulse inhabitants instead to bring back their maker? The fal'cie motives don't really make a lot of sense....
(16 Why can't the Fal'cie carry out their own actions? Why do they need L'cie slaves to do their work for them? If they are half-gods they should be able to do anything they want, right? What's stopping them?
17) If Orphan just wants to die, then why can't it just kill itself or ask for the aid of another fal'cie? Why do they need humans to do their work for them?
18) Why are the events of the war of transgression never fully explained?
19) Why did Fang and Vanille fail their focus 500 years earlier? And, if they failed it, why did they enter crystal stasis instead of being turned into Cie'th?
20) When Fang and Vanille become Ragnarok during the ending and save cocoon by wrapping it in crystal, I assume this means they completed their previously failed focus from 500 years earlier? I thought their focus was to destroy it, not prevent it from falling?
21) When Fang and Vanille enter crystal stasis AGAIN after becoming Ragnarok in the ending cutscene and stopping Cocoon from crashing into the ground, doesn't that only mean they will wake up from Stasis in another few-hundred years and it will just fall anyway?
22) This "maker" character is never explained much at all. Why did he create fal'cie? How long have the fal'cie been around? Have they been around as long as the human inhabitants of Pulse or are they "foreign invaders" or aliens so-to-speak?
23) For being half-gods the fal'cie seem to be constrained by A LOT of rules....why is this?
24) Is your party really turned into Cie'th before the final battle or is that just more illusionary tricks from barthandelus?
25) After Ragnarok wraps Cocoon in a protective crystal barrier and stops it from falling during the ending cutscene, all of your party members appear to be in crystal stasis...then magically they're not all of a sudden...what gives?
As much as I liked this game and the storyline, I felt that a lot of it was either just poorly explained or not fully explained. I managed to follow it pretty well throughout the game, but after the final credits I just had a "shrug your shoulders" feeling and tons of unanswered questions. I felt like the game just didn't tie up a ton of loose ends or fully explain itself. I could probably ask 25 more questions... Maybe I'm just an idiot, but this is one of the only storylines I've followed in my entire life that I've had trouble putting together in the end.... And I've read some pretty complicated storylines.
