The connection between Tidus and Shuyin

[Sheechiibii]

I do think you're right in terms of the time difference. It would make sense to have Tidus and a descendant of Dream Shuyin. And it's true that they don't look exactly a like. But to me, Tidus kind of looks like a younger version of Shuyin. I mean, look at Yuna's difference between X and X-2 (a two year time difference):

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Her face changed quite a bit within two years. I would imagine Shuyin is a few years older than Tidus....so to me it's not that much of a stretch to believe Tidus' face could change a bit between age 17 and whatever Shuyin's age was when he died (my guess: between 19 and 24).

My problem with the descendant theory lies in the fact that not only do they look alike, they also have the same voice (same voice actors. lol), same overdrives, similar stances in battle and mannerisms, even using the same catchphrase in the Den of Woe (there can't be two idiots saying 'This is our story' unless they're somehow connected. lol). Another thing I forgot to mention in the Den of Woe:



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Look familiar?

I don't know. There are too many things about Shuyin that are meant to remind us of Tidus, even after the fact that Yuna discovers he's not Tidus. I can understand having similarities prior to finding out this fact, but what's the point in having us be remind of Tidus after we already figured out he's not Tidus? I see them as hints to the fact that Tidus is somewhat of an imperfect copy of Shuyin.

But I respect your theory. You may be right about the descendant theory. It does make a lot of sense, but to me it doesn't quite explain all the little details you see of Shuyin throughout the game.

One last thing I forgot to mention:

Shuyin was apparently a blitzer as well. Some fans dispute this and argue that there's not proof of it. But to me the fact that he uses a blitzball in the Terror of Zanarkand (and does the Sphere Shot. Which as we know from FFX is not an easy task to complete. When Tidus did the shot for Wakka and the Besaid Aurochs they were extremely impressed.) Plus there's the fact that his clothes look like they could be a blitzer uniform (a much older version of the Abes uniform from FFX)

But not only that, I found this in the FFX-2 Illustration Collection:

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I wanted to add that in to prove another similarity between Tidus and Shuyin.

Hmm, yeah you make some really good points. I guess I just don't really like that theory because it doesn't make sense that tidus is still around 1000 years in the future if he's the original dream of Shuyin. I respect that there are a lot of things to explain this, but it just gets more and more complicated and takes too much thinking about I prefer the sense that the descendant theory gives while still being simple enough. The other theaories are all cool and interesting too though, but I guess since this is always the way I've seen things it seems the most likely to me.

A little off-topic but I do think that the difference between Yuna of X and Yuna of X-2 is way too much for two years, she often looks like an entirely different person, her face and eyes are a totally different shape as well. It's something that's always bothered me but I've just always let it slide lol

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[PhoenyxAngel]

Yeah....the difference between Yuna from FFX and Yuna from FFX-2 bothers me as well. Along with the magically growing hair at an impossible length in such a short amount of time thing. lol. Even look at Rikku's face in X and X-2....she's changed as well.

I guess my point was that in Spira their faces change dramatically in a short amount of time, so even if Tidus and Shuyin look different it doesn't discredit the dream theory since apparently faces can change within two years.