Bible Verse of the Day Discussion

[Richard B Riddick]

I know you all love these.

If a man digs a pit, he will fall into it; if a man rolls a stone, it will roll back on him.

-Proverbs 26:27

How I interpret this is...

Theoretically speaking - I think it means if Conor and Cali saw me walking down the street & dug a big hole in the ground so they could watch me fall into it and lulz...

The verse implies that Conor and Cali would accidentally trip and fall into the hole they've dug themselves & I would be lulzing in the end.

What do you all think of these traditionalist perspectives? Do they apply within the current era? Or, are they archaic and obsolete?

Furthrmore, what do you think of this specific worldview that those who seek to do harm may have harm be done to them instead?

Do they hold merit or have we all evolved or progressed beyond the need to consider such things?

[Emmy the Great]

Well I suppose some advice is always going to be relevant, don't be a cunt would be an example.

This one seems weird to me though, because it never mentions intent at all. It just seems to say that if a man ever tries anything he will be punished for it ironically.

[Gaige]

I take it to mean that if someone creates something they will become intrinsically involved with it. One can't just create something and then abandon it. One way or the other, they'll remain involved.

Frankly saying this applies exclusively to punishment is a little stilted and very limited. We aren't always going to burn ourselves cooking. We aren't always going to pull a muscle working out. We aren't always going to regret having kids etc etc.

This "rule" is present throughout the Bible. Of course the negative examples exist. The people of Sodom and Gomorrah were struck down. Jezebel was killed by her own subjects for being a false prophet etc etc. But there are also the examples of those rewarded for their faith and coming to love God and Jesus etc etc. The negative examples might outnumber the positive but both are there.

And besides that, looking at it in a completely Biblecentric sense is incredibly stilted. The Bible is faith oriented. Most positive examples will come from pleasing God and becoming a follower of Jesus. The entire concept becomes a lot broader once you view it in everyday life.

Frankly it just means you become involved in what you create as far as I'm concerned.

[Callisto]

If I saw anyone in a hole I would help them out, not laugh. :C


How about a love verse since God is love.

Matthew 5:43-48 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, "

You're not supposed to laugh at the "enemy" when they fall in the hole, you're supposed to love them.

[Pockets]

If I saw anyone in a hole I would help them out, not laugh. :C


How about a love verse since God is love.

Matthew 5:43-48 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, "

You're not supposed to laugh at the "enemy" when they fall in the hole, you're supposed to love them.

“Now there is a final reason I think that Jesus says, “Love your enemies.” It is this: that love has within it a redemptive power. And there is a power there that eventually transforms individuals. That’s why Jesus says, “Love your enemies.” Because if you hate your enemies, you have no way to redeem and to transform your enemies. But if you love your enemies, you will discover that at the very root of love is the power of redemption. You just keep loving people and keep loving them, even though they’re mistreating you. Here’s the person who is a neighbor, and this person is doing something wrong to you and all of that. Just keep being friendly to that person. Keep loving them. Don’t do anything to embarrass them. Just keep loving them, and they can’t stand it too long. Oh, they react in many ways in the beginning. They react with bitterness because they’re mad because you love them like that. They react with guilt feelings, and sometimes they’ll hate you a little more at that transition period, but just keep loving them. And by the power of your love they will break down under the load. That’s love, you see. It is redemptive, and this is why Jesus says love. There’s something about love that builds up and is creative. There is something about hate that tears down and is destructive. So love your enemies."

MLK Jr.