20 reasons why Final Fantasy XIII is not a good Final Fantasy game

[Zwing]

What does annoy me very much is that a enemy uses an attack that hits more targets its like this:
COM/SYN/MED
the COM attacks and walks away by the other 2 so she doesn’t get a hit how ever why the (...) don't walk the SYN and MED away from each other. they get hit both, are they retarded?

[Oerba Yun Fang]

1. No control of your 2nd and 3rd characters or at least the order of A.I. like FFXII's Gambit system.

The idea to only control 1 character at a time isn't so bad in itself, but I felt it made the other characters feel pointless. However, I thought the battle system was good once you go used to it.

2. If limiting user control to one character only, allow ability to change the characters during battle like, 8, X, and XII.

Agreed.

3. I NEVER changed my weapons. I upgraded them, but every weapon i found was virtually pointless aside from selling. The fist weapons you get end up being the best.

Again, agreed. The only reason I tinkered with weapons was for the Treasure Hunter trophy.

4. No minigames or REAL sidequests like 6, 7, 8, 9, X, XII, or tactics

This times A BILLION MILLION PLUS INFINITY.

5. The chocobo digging is a pitiful glimpse of an attempt of what 9's chocobo digging was. And no chocobo activities compare to the difficulty and fun of 7's breeding and racing. Even X’s chocobo trials were better.

I felt the chocobos were only there for the sake of having them. Much like potions and phoenix downs. All items really, bar those just for selling an upgrading.

6. 3 of my Eidolons were only used once because 3 of my characters were never in my battle team and if they were, they were not the lead. Hell, Hope has been in my battle team since the beginning and he only lead twice, and one of those times was just to see what Alexander could do.

I did find the Eidolins a bit pointless and useless. Quite the opposite from X, where things could be made sooo much easier with them- and where they could be used extremely strategically.

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. The world map is terrible, even if the plot IS about exile and isolation.

Agreed.

8. Seriously if i have to fight one more f***ing adamantoise.....

In defence, fighting all those bloody things was for the sake of the trophies, it wasn't really required on the games basis alone. And we've all experienced shittiness whilst trophy hunting.

9. "Holy" has been in EVERY SINGLE FINAL FANTASY GAME except this one

The absence of certain things doesn't make something a bad game. However, I too was disappointed at the lack of certain things. Basically anything even remotely FF-like?

10. So.... when someone turns to crystal their crystal form is nude. but when the awake they are still wearing clothes. There are many ways to do nudity and creatively not show "anything."

I know. A clear attempt to be classy, that fails when at the next turn when all of a sudden the developers are prudish. *rolls eyes*

11. So… I don’t get to fight Titan?.... That’s a crushing blow to this game.

I thought I was going to get to fight him too. During a cutscene, you see the sheer size of the adamancheilds- only to see the size of Titan in comparison. Awesome sauce. Made it look like you'd get to fight him too.

12. Being strictly linear maps, the fact that you can hear the nearby treasure chest eliminates all the need to search every last corner. If there is a stray path, 9 times out of 10 there is a treasure at the end.

This very fact made even having 'discoverable treasure' utterly pointless.

13. Seeing as how several major enemies can inflict massive amounts of damage to my entire party in a single hit, why then won’t a medic class continue casting Curas after 90% health? The A.I. switches to casting single cures 1 at a time. WHY?!!!!! JUST HEAL ME AND BE DONE WITH IT!!!!

FUCKING YESS!!! GGRAVDJKDBVUISG!! ARRGGHH!! This made me soo goddam angry. Cura when two of us are on green, and one on yellow. One cure at a time when we're all in the yellow? You stupid moron! *kills Vanille*

14. The Crystalarium allows no room for character personalization like such great FF titles like……all of them.

This. People keep comparing it to the Sphere Grid, which annoys me. The Grid was absolutely FANTASTIC. Customization (anyone can learn anything) but layed out in such a way where certain characters are more likely to learn certain things, but can do what they want over all. Very realistic. The Cytstalarium is like the rest of the game. Linear with no room for my input.

15. There was not a single puzzle or riddle to figure out. Trajen’s Tower is the closest the game comes to making you actually think but even that was handed to you with detailed instructions.

Again, spot on. Game felt a little spineless.

16. Im going to make the argument about no Towns for 2 reasons. The first being that even when Sazh and Vanille are nearing the parade, the town is still boring and LINEAR. AND At this point in the game you’re not known fugitives yet. The second reason is questioning why they couldn’t just put on disguises. I mean, the people of Cocoon didn’t appear to be very smart. They probably wouldn’t have noticed. Snow on the beach was about the closest it got.

Can't argue with this. Accept, regarding your second point- there are instances in all FF's, heck all games... all art- where something has to happen or not happen, for the sake of plot. This wasn't that big a deal.

17. No Gravity Magic

See reply to #9.

18. No Flare, Meteor, or any related massive damage Magic attack.

See reply to #9 and #17.

19. Seriously?.....a save point around every single turn?

I know And the whole 'retry' thing. You die you just go back in time! ...yay! Not.

20. The battle with Orphan consisted of Orphan doing the same move of taking me down to 1% life then allowing me more than enough time to fully heal and attack for 20 seconds or so then repeat. So disappointing.

Yeah, disappointing final boss. :/


...ahhh. Nothing like putting a good deal of effort and detail into a post. ^^

[Crystal]

I hated it that nothing really came back in a battle from the previous games. Where's the MP? I loved the mp. it made me feel doing something useful instead of pressing autobattle now, because I'm too lazy to look at which magic I want to use.
And why is the HP restored after each battle? that's no fun, and why can we only control 1 person? and why is it game over when the leader dies?
That's just lame, the phoenix downs just seem more useless now as well to me because of that.
potions were useless as well. You didn't even have high- and x-potions.
And new status effects, where are the old ones? stone, darkness and silence are a must in FF games.
There weren't enough weapons as well.

Okay I'm done ranting

[DeadFantasy]

1. No control of your 2nd and 3rd characters or at least the order of A.I. like FFXII's Gambit system.

I agree. I hated the fact that you could only control one character. It pretty much makes the other to part members useless (well not completely) but still.

2. If limiting user control to one character only, allow ability to change the characters during battle like, 8, X, and XII.

With ya there.

3. I NEVER changed my weapons. I upgraded them, but every weapon i found was virtually pointless aside from selling. The fist weapons you get end up being the best.

I never did either I just went ahead and upgraded to with what I had.

4. No minigames or REAL sidequests like 6, 7, 8, 9, X, XII, or tactics

I agree here as well. The mini-games were like apart of FF xD I was disssapointed.

6. 3 of my Eidolons were only used once because 3 of my characters were never in my battle team and if they were, they were not the lead. Hell, Hope has been in my battle team since the beginning and he only lead twice, and one of those times was just to see what Alexander could do.

I think I had the same thing happen here as well. The eidolons seemed pathetically useless because, I hardly had the chance to even use them

9. "Holy" has been in EVERY SINGLE FINAL FANTASY GAME except this one

Ehhh, that didn't bother me xD

10. So.... when someone turns to crystal their crystal form is nude. but when the awake they are still wearing clothes. There are many ways to do nudity and creatively not show "anything."

I mean, its a fricking game. I mean even though it doesn't make sense, it shouldn't have to. I mean it's kind of stupid but, it doesn't really affect my opinion of it.

12. Being strictly linear maps, the fact that you can hear the nearby treasure chest eliminates all the need to search every last corner. If there is a stray path, 9 times out of 10 there is a treasure at the end.

I mean I agree. I didn't really like the fact I had no wiggle room to go out and about but, it only makes sense. Linear is linear after all.

14. The Crystalarium allows no room for character personalization like such great FF titles like……all of them.

I agree here as well. I think a few post before me had said that everyone compares it to X. In X you could go wherever you pleased ya know? I liked that. In XIII you couldn't.

18. No Flare, Meteor, or any related massive damage Magic attack.

Mhm. I can honestly say, I liked having magic at my finger tips so, I did miss the flare etc attacks.

19. Seriously?.....a save point around every single turn?

I agree that there is a save point a lot but you could so chose to skip it and went ahead ya know? better safe then sorry.

20. The battle with Orphan consisted of Orphan doing the same move of taking me down to 1% life then allowing me more than enough time to fully heal and attack for 20 seconds or so then repeat. So disappointing.

I agree. Orphan was an utter fail.

BONUS: The game is so incredibly easy it’s insulting

Again, agree. I went through the game fairly easy without no sweat on my back.

[Zwing]

3 is not right. when you upgrade a weapon to star level. and than upgrade it with a transformation catalyst (or something like that) and most weapons give other bonusses than other ones.

but you were right about the boss he wasnt hard, the only frustrating thing is that he has instant KO.

[Ghastly]

I agree. Orphan was an utter fail.

Was Orphan really that easy for everyone? The fucker whooped my ass left-and-right. So much so that I pretty much gave up beating the game and returned it to Blockbuster after the second night spent fighting him. I don't know if it was actually the sheer difficulty or the [i]length[/i that got me about that final boss battle.

On average, it took me nearly 20 minutes to get Orphan's health down by about 70%. Then the fucker would do a move that nearly killed all my characters, then he'd do his transition attack ("Merciless..." something). And then I'd have to start all over. Fast forward an hour and a half, and I forget why I'm trying so hard to beat him.

I can't seriously be the only one who had all this trouble with Orphan.

[Claire]

Was Orphan really that easy for everyone? The fucker whooped my ass left-and-right. So much so that I pretty much gave up beating the game and returned it to Blockbuster after the second night spent fighting him. I don't know if it was actually the sheer difficulty or the [i]length[/i that got me about that final boss battle.

On average, it took me nearly 20 minutes to get Orphan's health down by about 70%. Then the fucker would do a move that nearly killed all my characters, then he'd do his transition attack ("Merciless..." something). And then I'd have to start all over. Fast forward an hour and a half, and I forget why I'm trying so hard to beat him.

I can't seriously be the only one who had all this trouble with Orphan.

I will say this, Orphan's first form was a little rough for me. It took me a few tries to beat that form, but his 2nd form was an utter failure. Nothing about his 2nd makes him even remotely difficult, but his 1st was a bitch. As soon as I'd go to heal from that Merciless attack he'd put a rape on me and kill me.

[Ghastly]

I will say this, Orphan's first form was a little rough for me. It took me a few tries to beat that form, but his 2nd form was an utter failure. Nothing about his 2nd makes him even remotely difficult, but his 1st was a bitch. As soon as I'd go to heal from that Merciless attack he'd put a rape on me and kill me.

... HE HAS MORE THAN ONE FORM?

AND THE SECOND ONE WAS EASY?

WAT.

WAAAAAT.

[Claire]

... HE HAS MORE THAN ONE FORM?

AND THE SECOND ONE WAS EASY?

WAT.

WAAAAAT.

lol yeah there are 2 forms to Orphan, and the 2nd was the easier of the 2 forms, I promise. Thats why I fucking hate him as a final boss, he's pathetic. His 2nd form takes about 2 minutes maximum, hes fucking cake.

[GalaxyFlare]

So its official!

FFXIII sucked? Thats 2 in a row and people will not tolerate it much longer IMO.

FF has lost its lustre and esteem, when I was younger and first got into FF it had the feeling of "Best of the Best" and to me a new console was not really complete with a FF title available.

That last part maybe irrelevant, but it just what FF meant.....yknow back in the day.