FFVII AC General Discussion

[Callisto]

That's a bad thing about AC, though. It seems like it ONLY focuses on Cloud, Denzel, Aerith, Marlene, KadajandGang, and Tifa.

Uhh, what about Vincent, Cid, Yuffie, Red, Caitsith, and Barret, SE? They're the original members, so what the chiz. It's seriously the biggest thing in AC that makes me cringe.

It's like they just forgot about them... what idiots.

[Alak]

I kinda understand the lack of Vincent and Yuffie since they're optional characters in the original game. There's no excuse for the lack of Barret, Red, and Cid, though :barret::cid::nanaki:



Cait Sith I could do without, though....never liked him in the first place lol.

[bill114]

That's a bad thing about AC, though. It seems like it ONLY focuses on Cloud, Denzel, Aerith, Marlene, KadajandGang, and Tifa.

Uhh, what about Vincent, Cid, Yuffie, Red, Caitsith, and Barret, SE? They're the original members, so what the chiz. It's seriously the biggest thing in AC that makes me cringe.

It's like they just forgot about them... what idiots.

But you see, there are time constraints within making a movie. They still have to make money on it. Thus why you typically see movie run times at "90 minutes" or "120 minutes" or "105 minutes" etc.

Because of the constraints on how long a film can run, there are limits as to what they can actually do with the movie. A movie isn't like a video game or a novel, which can go into deep detail in the 40-60 hours it takes to complete them.

IMO if the film had added in more Barrett & co, the film would have been worse. There would have been less focus on Cloud to the point where the average viewer would question whether the film had any point at all.

I own the Complete version, and am thoroughly glad that all they did was add in more of Cloud's detail and story to it. It helped remove the confusion from the original Advent Children's storyline (namely, Cloud's change in his actions from the end of VII to the start of AC; although Case of Tifa answers this best, there are small glimpse's and explanations of Cloud's change; example being the added Cloud/Marlene scene in the Complete version). Also, Advent Children was clear from the first 5 minutes that it is about him, just as Dirge of the Cerebrus was about Vincent. As Nomura said (or was it Kitase?), Advent Children completes Cloud's story, just as Dirge of the Cerebrus completes Vincent's.

[Six]

That's a bad thing about AC, though. It seems like it ONLY focuses on Cloud, Denzel, Aerith, Marlene, KadajandGang, and Tifa.

Uhh, what about Vincent, Cid, Yuffie, Red, Caitsith, and Barret, SE? They're the original members, so what the chiz. It's seriously the biggest thing in AC that makes me cringe.

It's like they just forgot about them... what idiots.

I understand what you mean. Though Vincent got his own spin-off in Dirge of Cerberus, and Yuffie was a big asset to that. So It kinda evens it out, even though I suppose you can't compare this 'cause that is a game, and this is a movie.

I missed seeing the others in there, I'll admit that, and I wish it had more of them in it too. I doubt they forgot about them, I just think they took the ones that were most popular to the crowd to be honest. Stupid thing to do? Maybe. But I still love the movie, though.

[Marcus]

Did anyone else watch Advent Children Complete? I personally loved the extension in the Cloud/Sephiroth battle! The fact that the movie's in HD didn't hurt either

i have this film on blu ray and the quality is UNREAL the detail in not jut the main cast but in... well everything is just amazing, the added scenes were an aded bonus aswell, really enjoyed. infact might put it on soon

[Alak]

Hmmm, I always figured that Advent Children was dedicated to both Cloud and Tifa, not just the former. Anyways, it makes me wonder how long will it be until SE gives the rest of the cast their own game/movie. They milked the franchise so much already...might as well finish the job lol.

[Callisto]

Nope. It was mainly about Cloud, Denzel, Aerith, and Tifa, though. And that's still wrong.

They should have included the WHOLE gang, not just the popular characters.

[Beyer]

Nope. It was mainly about Cloud, Denzel, Aerith, and Tifa, though. And that's still wrong.

They should have included the WHOLE gang, not just the popular characters.

popular? I would have to say Aerith, Cloud and Tifa are not so popular as compared to say Vincent or Red 13. Most of the people I know hate Aerith and Cloud.
I think the movie focused around them because even in the original game, they are sort of the main characters (except for Denzel)

[bill114]

popular? I would have to say Aerith, Cloud and Tifa are not so popular as compared to say Vincent or Red 13. Most of the people I know hate Aerith and Cloud.
I think the movie focused around them because even in the original game, they are sort of the main characters (except for Denzel)

Nah. Denzel aside, Cloud, Tifa, and Aerith are the most popular from the FFVII franchise (though Vincent is fairly popular). Hence why you typically see all three of them at the top of Final Fantasy character lists (IGN) or just winning character popularity polls (Gamespot and Gamefaqs).

[Dragon Mage]

Let it be known that this movie alone set me on my path to majoring in Digital Animation. I am dead serious.

Also, I love the movie because it really does give a peek into what the characters do afterward, and I found it very realistic that Cloud & Co. would suffer from a bit of survivors' guilt. (That's what it's called, 'survivors' guilt' when a member of a group survives something that killed a close friend or comrade. Such survivors often hold themselves to the mantra 'I could have saved them' guilt, which makes Cloud a textbook case of this disorder.)

I didn't like how this movie gave everyone the impression that he was an emo, though. Look at the game. He isn't emo. Conflicted, certainly, but not a gloomy emo.

Also, badass battles = GLEE.

A few disappointments was that Tifa lost her first battle (SEXIST JAPS! *growls*), and that it focused overmuch on Cloud. I mean hey, I've no problems with the camera staying on Mr. Smexy but there's a reason the Bahamut battle is my favorite -- you get to see everyone ELSE appear and kick ass.

And the movie definitely needed more Cid. <.<


Also, like many on here, the wannabe Trio (Kadaj, Loz, Yazoo) were a terrible disappointment. I recall seeing somewhere that each Remnant is a fragment of Sephiroth's soul and each one represents a different part of Sephiroth. Loz was the masculine part of Sephiroth.

*looks up from screen*

*Bursts out laughing*

I think we all know why Sephy felt the need to prove himself a god, don't we folks! LAMO!!!!!!

But yeah, they were annoying.

Reno and Rude I never cared for very much until this movie. NOW I LOVE THEM. Reno & Rude = awesome,awesome,awesome! And go Rufus.

So... yeah, that is all. I'll think of more later. :3