Gaia spelled as gaea in ff7 is the name of the world in which ff7 takes place.I think the big link between mother earth and VII is that it is called Gaia.
Can you please point me to the piece (evidence) you're referring to ?No jenova is simply an alien that fell from the sky
This is a good point indeed.In my opinion the word mother only came from sephiroth after he found out about being experimented on with the jenova cells.
Apparently the name "Gaia" has not been attributed to the Planet in any official Final Fantasy VII media (source see the "Name" section)I think the big link between mother earth and VII is that it is called Gaia.
Source under 'Nature'
Jenova's genetic structure is a two-way conduit: it can both take in the traits of its prey, and insert its own genes to turn other organisms into violent monsters. Once Jenova lands upon a planet it will destroy every form of life it finds. Jenova can absorb its prey's memories and form, hiding as their loved ones to destroy them.
Once Jenova has destroyed a planet it uses it as a vessel to travel the cosmos to another planet. Jenova's age is unknown, but since it can lay dormant for millennia if necessary, it might be older than the planet of Gaia itself.
I think I understand that you do not wish to hear more about this idea. Am I wrong ?
Yep these guys/gals really know a lot about this game and the compilation, much more details than I will ever know. And I really mean it.It looks like they’ve said very much the same sort of thing I’ve said here (with regards to the official lore at least).
I really need to read this book !There’s an excellent article in the book Final Fantasy and Philosophy comparing Jenova’s infection of the FFVII Planet with Japanese anxieties of Christianity and the West (alien influences) impacting on Japanese Shinto traditions.
I think that you're right, there's definitely two separate entites, both bearing life at the origin. One infesting the other.So I stand by the possibility that Jenova could be someone else’s god, or someone else’s Mother Earth, but not the native Mother Earth of FFVII’s Planet.
What I retain from the results of this first hypothesis is that there may be a similarity in the behaviour between Jenova and the Lifestream in the fact that both seem to travel from planet to planet.
Do you agree with this statement ?
Wow your knowledge of all these mythologies is fascinating. I thank you for offering me this concise overview.
I think that you're right, there's definitely two separate entites, both bearing life at the origin. One infesting the other.
My mental confusion comes from the discovery of this scene from the movie "Parking" (A modern retelling of the myth of Orpheus and Eurydice ) that we discussed on the other thread.
I am convinced that this scene visually influenced the opening cinematic of Final Fantasy VII. But I also wondered if it had inspired other aspects of the game, like the scenario for example. It is clear that this is not at all obvious. However if we draw a parallel between what happens in the two scenes, I think we can deduce something interesting. The scene of the film presents the arrival of the girl in hell. As there is already strong reason to think that Midgar is inspired by the idea of hell (among other references), I thought that this alley could be the gateway that Aerith would use to enter the city. Except that she would come here voluntarily at the right time to meet Cloud (The idea of timing is important in other aspects of my theory). This makes her immediately suspicious and hellish in my eyes, hence my hypothesis that would make her the embodiment of Jenova.
But the scenario of the game tends to make us think that Aerith is an innocent creature close to nature, which makes my observation totally paradoxical. As the game seems to promote the idea of respect for nature by putting us in the shoes of environmentalist terrorists from the start, I then thought that Aerith could have embodied the vengeful hand of mother nature.
But this assumption does not pass validation tests (canons), I realize it now.
However, I remain convinced that Aerith is entering Midgar by this leak in the Mako pipe. This would be the start (well the start of the game)...
(Warning, possible spoilers ahead ! I am being serious here)
...and this would be the end.
I like that.This is a powerful scene, and we can read into that what we like.
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I find it difficult to conceive that "Jenova" can be used to connect the themes of environmentalism if we consider that it is foreign to the original life of the planet. Environmentalism is by definition a flood of political ideas that aims to preserve the nature of human action, which should therefore be considered a private matter to the planet. To say that "Jenova" is responsible for the degradation of the planet would be to remove any responsibility of the human race for this degradation. Which would rather tend to kill a possible ecologist message in my opinion. But I admit that I have for some time tend to question the primacy of this message in the game. I see more and more the human race in this game as an army of puppets.I think you're all over-analyzing. Jenova's just there to tie together the themes of environmentalism. Shin-Ra, Sephiroth, Jenova--they're all just foils to get the playable characters to find a personal stake in putting the well-being of the Planet above their own.
This reference that you are commenting already represents an important example of hidden code I find.If the name chosen for Jenova resembles the Tetragrammaton, it's because Japanese culture just generally sees the Catholic God as the enemy, because of the way the Jesuits famously tried to economically exploit the country. But you're wasting your times speculating about all this hidden symbolism. Good writers write for the effect on the audience, not to telegraph arcane codes.
I recently thought about another behavioral similarity between "Jenova" and Lifestream.
First, "Jenova" is said to be a shape-shifter. Well so is the Lifestream. Yes that's right the Lifestream takes the shape of any living entity on the planet, that's its definition. A tree that dies returns to the lifestream and can become a human or any other living entity.
Secondly, it is said that every cell belonging to "Jenova" will seek to rejoin it if it's separated. That's basically what's happening with the Lifestream either, every living entity (life is cells) returns to the Lifestream at some point.