360: the new RPG console. - Page 3

May 9, 2008, 1:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vincent Crescent

Anyway, firstly, that blue-ray thing is currently...not an argument. I decided the other day to find out how much a blue-ray player was, and it came up at £200 (as the cheapest). That's about $400. So the PS3 is not the cheapest blue-ray player anymore (though it may have caused the prices to drop on them).

I didn't know Blu-ray players had gone down in price, but you're right. I just looked at them on Best Buy and Circuit City's websites and they run $400 to $600.

Of course now people will just be saying "so I can get a Blu-ray player by itself...or I can get one that plays games too? I'm gonna go with the one that plays games."

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The hi-def disc thing is worth mentioning I suppose, but to be honest, everyone's still using dvds as far as I can tell, and even though I have a HD TV (was £300/$600), I only have one blue-ray disc, and I got that for signing up to the playstation network on the release date (woot).

Thank you for perfectly illustrating the point I made a few posts back about how some people just don't care about Blu-ray. Blu-ray discs are generally twice as expensive as normal DVDs, sometimes three times as expensive...and what's high-definition get you? Wow, a brighter clearer picture. It's not like the picture on normal DVDs (or TVs) is all fuzzy and grainy like old silent films, it looks perfectly fine. Some people just aren't graphics whores.

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Personally, I don't like the idea of a war. I like competition between the companies, as it makes some great consoles and games appear that wouldn't have if just sony existed (I mean...no wii? It's insanity!). But I still gotta back the playstation, partially because its getting the lovely FF13 (which better be good or I'll sue SE or something...), and a few other titles I'm looking forward to. Though unless I hear of something great, I probably won't be buying any rpgs for any of the three consoles in the near future, and will continue to get my ps2 ones.

I don't like console wars simply because they produce tons of obnoxious fanboys, and now GameTrailers.com has taken to making videos comparing the PS3 and 360 graphics of every damn game that comes out. So now that just fuels the fanboys even more cuz they're like "ZOMG THE PS3 IS SLIGHTLY BRIGHTER OLOLOL" and then "TEH 360 CAN HAS SLIGHTLY BETTER TEXTURES!" and then everybody just joins hands to trash the poor Wii for having Gamecube graphics.

But you're absolutely right about the competition. If Sony (or Xbox or Nintendo) was the only console out there, they wouldn't feel the need to improve and they'd just halfass everything. And the fact that RPGs are STILL coming out for the PS2 is a testament to its greatness and shows that it's probably the best RPG console evar.

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Anyway, back to the topic at hand... I'm not that keen on most of those RPGs, and sales figures don't really bother me. I don't like the revised PS3, for the reason of its much lesser capabilities (and taking the higher-spec version off the market).

Taking the high-spec version off the market just makes no sense to me. I dunno what Sony is thinking...they're either tripping balls and just don't care, or they have something epic planned and they're just trying to fool us so we'll be surprised.

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Oh, another thing, I haven't had any problems with backwards compatability. Only the silly Phantasy Star Universe, of which Phantasy Star and me have never been on good terms regarding memory data (thing got corrupted...much like how my GC PSO data got corrupted...damn Phantasy Star....)

So they did fix it then? Good, it's about time

May 9, 2008, 1:29 AM

People who don't care about Blu-ray haven't watched it run. I have a 27 inch 720p and, even though I really didn't care at first, I noticed a HUGE difference between my Blu-rays (I got five for free by mailing in my PS3 barcode) and my DVDs. It's like noticing the difference between watching a football game on a regular TV and then on an HDTV. There is a difference, and a significant difference at that, not just in video, but it audio as well.

That being said, I can understand why people still don't want to pay MORE for Blu-rays.

Anyone else notice that Blu-rays are only 5 dollars more? LOL

May 9, 2008, 3:14 AM

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Originally Posted by frostybanana

Anyone else notice that Blu-rays are only 5 dollars more? LOL

Good lord, you really suck at math. Regular DVDs are anywhere from $10 to $20. Blu-ray DVDs are $30 to $40, unless they're discounted. At absolute lowest they're $20 regular price.

As you can clearly see, your arithmetic completely fails. Do take note that three of those movies have been DISCOUNTED from the original $40 price tag as well.

May 9, 2008, 4:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ARC-77

...then everybody just joins hands to trash the poor Wii for having Gamecube graphics.

The Gamecube's graphic were not that bad! I mean did you play the remade version of Resident Evil? The detail in that was absolutely amazing, and Resident Evil Zero won an award for it's graphics and that was a GC exclusive! If the Wii is capable of that, then I don't see the problem. Graphics aren't everything. Nintendo knows that, that's why the DS is selling more than the PSP.

May 9, 2008, 5:32 AM

The Wii is essentially a Gamecube in disguise. I don't need amazing graphics in order to enjoy a videogame, but when a company passes off a console that is more or less the same as its predecessor, branding it a "next-gen" console, I'd like to see something more than a crappy motion-sensing gimmick, Miis, and a host of useless downloads via Wii shops. The Wii weather channel is totally kickass. Keeps me from playing SSBB on occasion.

May 9, 2008, 5:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaix

The Gamecube's graphic were not that bad! I mean did you play the remade version of Resident Evil? The detail in that was absolutely amazing, and Resident Evil Zero won an award for it's graphics and that was a GC exclusive! If the Wii is capable of that, then I don't see the problem. Graphics aren't everything. Nintendo knows that, that's why the DS is selling more than the PSP.

I know, they were ATI graphics

But graphics whores want bright shiny graphics, so the Wii isn't good enough for them. Not that it matters because graphics whores aren't true games and they'll always come and go, the loyal fans/consumers are the ones who won't care as much about graphics and we'll always pick quality over...uh...quaphics?

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Originally Posted by Mister Poop

The Wii is essentially a Gamecube in disguise. I don't need amazing graphics in order to enjoy a videogame, but when a company passes off a console that is more or less the same as its predecessor, branding it a "next-gen" console, I'd like to see something more than a crappy motion-sensing gimmick, Miis, and a host of useless downloads via Wii shops. The Wii weather channel is totally kickass. Keeps me from playing SSBB on occasion.

Well the motion sensor is pretty innovative, and certainly much more functional than Sony's version. It's not really that crappy either, at least in the hands of a capable game developer. Problem is most game companies don't take the time to learn the hardware and just churn out crap games. Now I am very fond of the Virtual Console. Sure, I can always download ROMs on my computer, but it would be so much more awesome to dl Ocarina of Time or Toejam and Earl and play them on a TV. To me that makes up for the current lack of good third party games.

May 9, 2008, 6:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ARC-77

I know, they were ATI graphics

But graphics whores want bright shiny graphics, so the Wii isn't good enough for them.

Yeah, but they don't realize the bad things about graphics. If they're too realistic it won't look like a game anymore! It will get head-ache inducing, which is what happened to me play Oblivion. It looked so real! Ah

the head-aches were horrible! But there is a plus to graphic whoring...I just cant think of it at the moment...

May 13, 2008, 1:25 AM

Aghh. 360 will forevor be out of my price range, and I have... 0 close friend's with a 360 willing to buy a game like ToV or LO. D: And to be honest, buying one would shame me. I've never been an XBOX fan. But... Lost Oddysey. ;_;

On the subject of fanboys, I've always been a bit of a nintendo fanboy, honestly. I wish my Wii would get more RPGs.

May 13, 2008, 1:36 AM

I agree xbox 360 has a wider and better RPG gaming selection at the time. However within the next couple years I feel PS3 will surpass Microsoft's xbox, Playstation has had a rough start but I think they will prove to be the better console within the next year.