foevanimeboi
Chocobo Breeder
I'm starting this thread to talk about good things and bad things about XIII. I encourage people who are open minded to discuss this topic, and if you're bias about your dislike toward this title for whatever reasons, then you shouldn't talk here (because you're never gonna change your mind). I'm not starting this thread to bash haters. This thread is about XIII (Not bashing other titles either, I love other Final Fantasy titles too). I'm sorry if my thoughts are everywhere, I started this thread while I was at work and started on it again at home.
I personally like XIII for many reasons, but lately I've been so annoyed by all the hate it's getting. I understand people having different opinions and expectations for the game as Final Fantasy title. I've played many Final Fantasy titles (II, IV, VI, VII, VIII, IX, XIII, didn't play X, XI, and XII cuz I didn't have a ps2 back then). I find it funny how most of the reasons why people hate it so much is the total opposite of what it is. Here are some reasons why people hate XIII, according to all the comments and discussion i've come across.
- Too linear
- no world map, npcs, side quests
- battle system
- light story (Not the Dark type of story)
- characters
- unrealistic expectations
- too different from the older titles
I'd say the majority of the dislike has to do with it being too linear and yes, I also don't like that either. RPG games should have more room for explorations and stopping at one place and going back to it. The fact that it's linear isn't really a reason why people should hate the whole game though. The game has a lot of NPCs (Cid Raines, Rygdea, Yuj, Maqui, etc...), so I don't know why people would complain about that. The game did some side quests, but it only until you reached the Archyte Steppe, so I don't know.
As for the story, a lot of people didn't like it because they either didn't understand it or they just thought it wasn't dark enough. I found the theme of defying fate to be pretty good. I didn't care whether the story was dark or not, I don't know if it matters. People didn't like the characters for whatever reasons, but I think they were well developed, they each have back story and how it all connects is interesting. Lightning was a good protagonist, going from being cold and unsympathetic to a person who cares for her comrades and being more friendly. So overall, I think the story is good. (That's just my opinion), I think it mainly has to do with fact that the characters talk, instead you having to read the dialogue, but only the old generation of games have that, now we can hear them talk )
Ever since the game came out, people have had too much expectations for the game to be super good or being something like one of the older titles. I think the expectation was just too high, and as a result, they were just disappointed and started hating on it because of that. Not only was the expectation too high, but then Versus XIII was announce as well (I blame SE for announcing it a little too early, they should've waited till now to announce it). XIII was different from the older titles, but that's what makes it good. If you just have the same thing over and over again, it'll be boring as crap. People complain that the battle system only lets you control one character and the you press the X (I have a PS3) over and over again. Well...isn't that the case with the other Final Fantasy titles? At least you you have to press R1 to change paradigms, so I don't think you button mash X over and over again. As for not being able to control more than one character, you still have to set their paradigms, so it's not like they just do whatever it is they do without you setting it up for them. Many people want it to be turn based, but I think the graphics and enemies moving at that time frame won't match the old type of game style.
So yeah...let me hear you thoughts. I know I'm missing some stuff or the thoughts are everywhere, so don't blame me hahah...!
(The reason I don't want people who just come here to bash me to respond is because I've bumped into a lot trolls lately, it's kinda annoying. I wanna have a respectful and thoughtful discussion)
I personally like XIII for many reasons, but lately I've been so annoyed by all the hate it's getting. I understand people having different opinions and expectations for the game as Final Fantasy title. I've played many Final Fantasy titles (II, IV, VI, VII, VIII, IX, XIII, didn't play X, XI, and XII cuz I didn't have a ps2 back then). I find it funny how most of the reasons why people hate it so much is the total opposite of what it is. Here are some reasons why people hate XIII, according to all the comments and discussion i've come across.
- Too linear
- no world map, npcs, side quests
- battle system
- light story (Not the Dark type of story)
- characters
- unrealistic expectations
- too different from the older titles
I'd say the majority of the dislike has to do with it being too linear and yes, I also don't like that either. RPG games should have more room for explorations and stopping at one place and going back to it. The fact that it's linear isn't really a reason why people should hate the whole game though. The game has a lot of NPCs (Cid Raines, Rygdea, Yuj, Maqui, etc...), so I don't know why people would complain about that. The game did some side quests, but it only until you reached the Archyte Steppe, so I don't know.
As for the story, a lot of people didn't like it because they either didn't understand it or they just thought it wasn't dark enough. I found the theme of defying fate to be pretty good. I didn't care whether the story was dark or not, I don't know if it matters. People didn't like the characters for whatever reasons, but I think they were well developed, they each have back story and how it all connects is interesting. Lightning was a good protagonist, going from being cold and unsympathetic to a person who cares for her comrades and being more friendly. So overall, I think the story is good. (That's just my opinion), I think it mainly has to do with fact that the characters talk, instead you having to read the dialogue, but only the old generation of games have that, now we can hear them talk )
Ever since the game came out, people have had too much expectations for the game to be super good or being something like one of the older titles. I think the expectation was just too high, and as a result, they were just disappointed and started hating on it because of that. Not only was the expectation too high, but then Versus XIII was announce as well (I blame SE for announcing it a little too early, they should've waited till now to announce it). XIII was different from the older titles, but that's what makes it good. If you just have the same thing over and over again, it'll be boring as crap. People complain that the battle system only lets you control one character and the you press the X (I have a PS3) over and over again. Well...isn't that the case with the other Final Fantasy titles? At least you you have to press R1 to change paradigms, so I don't think you button mash X over and over again. As for not being able to control more than one character, you still have to set their paradigms, so it's not like they just do whatever it is they do without you setting it up for them. Many people want it to be turn based, but I think the graphics and enemies moving at that time frame won't match the old type of game style.
So yeah...let me hear you thoughts. I know I'm missing some stuff or the thoughts are everywhere, so don't blame me hahah...!
(The reason I don't want people who just come here to bash me to respond is because I've bumped into a lot trolls lately, it's kinda annoying. I wanna have a respectful and thoughtful discussion)