World War II

February 12, 2008, 3:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Young Knives

not very well though, and he screwed up the gallipoli landing in WW1
i agree with John Lennon though

I was talking about WWII. Should've said that in my first post.

February 12, 2008, 3:58 AM

and so was i mostly

February 12, 2008, 4:09 AM

Whaaaat? Churchill didn't lead the British well in WWII?

February 12, 2008, 4:13 AM

nah, if hitler didnt hate stalin so much they would have lost extremely quickly.

if you mean that he was good for british morale and he gave good speeches then yeah he did a good job, but considering he was appointed after the outbreak WW2 i would say that he was appointed to win the war

February 12, 2008, 4:15 AM

Which is what he did therefore he did his job well.

And I doubt Britain would've been invaded by the Germans even if Hitler didn't hate Stalin. The Royal Navy is just too stout a force. Any invasion force would've been turned away.
But whatever.

February 12, 2008, 4:22 AM

british navy would have been raped, by the german pilots and most of the navy was in the pacific, only reason they wernt invaded was operation barbarossa

February 12, 2008, 4:26 AM

I want to set up a World War II thread for this now that I've found someone to actually discuss it with.

But I'll have to disagree. Most of the Royal Navy was in the Mediterranean and the Home Islands in Scotland. The Naval High Command thought that the Pacific theatre was secondary. And the quality of the ships in the Atlantic were pretty new compared to those in the Pacific with a couple of exceptions in holdovers from WWI.

And yah, Barbarossa, which wouldn't have happened in 1941 if it wasn't for the British turning back the Luftwaffe.

To all others: I'll move our posts to a new WWII thread.

February 12, 2008, 4:27 AM

Discussion of World War II goes here.

February 12, 2008, 4:35 AM

nah barbarossa was just a diversion, hitler had already planned it, he originally didnt want to go to war with the UK but because of the causes of WW2 which im not going to go into, they did go to war.

Hitler hated communists as he was a fascist, ironic really as extreme right wing and left wing are very similar, but there is proof of his hatred of communism ie blaming communists for burning down the reichstag.
germany and USSR had made the molotov non agression pact where they said they wouldnt go to war, but im pretty sure hitler never was going to keep going along with that.
so he used the battle of britain and the threat of operation sealion as a diversion whilst he moved some of his panzer divisions close to the USSR's oilfields in Kazahkstan,

February 12, 2008, 5:42 AM

I wouldn't say the Battle of Britain was a diversion, but I genuinely thought it was a planned maneuver to knock the West out of the war and therefore knock out a salient of resistance once his war on the U.S.S.R. began. One of the German war aims was to not get into a two-front war which cost them in the First World War, so it doesn't follow that Hitler would attack Britain and not conquer it in the end because it was just a diversion.

But yeah, Hitler was planning on attacking Russia in the first place. It was just a matter of when and what circumstances.