What is self sexual attraction? - Page 2

April 27, 2008, 2:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Korytco

People turning their selfs on in a sense of other people, not in a sense of their self, that is not the pont of this thread, their bodies are a remote stimulus, to assocation of sexual activities with men or women. Further described in this post...this is not the point of this thread, I dont day dream about myself in bed with myself but yes the thread can span on those points, that is a degree of this thread, but it was never the key to it, or the base , guts of the thread. Everything has varrying degrees.

People that is no the point of this thread, anyone else want to give me a chance and try to understand?

Read inbetween the lines, and what has already been said, try a new approach .

I'm sorry, I'd try to understand and read in between the lines, but bold font really does not help an entire paragraph of fail grammar and spelling. I mean seriously dude, I'm not trying to insult you here or anything, but for god's sake, proofread what you type before you hit submit. Your sentences are so jumbled and your words are so misspelled that I can't make sense out of half of what you say. Maybe more people would agree with you if you were clearer in what you say.

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I am not a one word arguer please argue my points in summary if you can.

I was just pointing out how you were trying to make masturbation sound nice and fancy by turning a single word into a paragraph long definition.

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Exactly when you masturbation you are having sex with yourself, mirror or not, you are accepting that you are taking sex into your own hands , you are giving into your own superiority and sexual presence. The computer images or whatever are their to just make it seem justifiable but the actual action is you taking into your hands your outward ability to please your inward sexual fantasys. You are indirectly identifying your physical attributes with your mental , and of your own needs. You gratify yourself in self love by being able to realize yourself in a physical , mechanical matter. All mechanics are mind driven, and plotted out, they are a relief of long hours of tinkering , science and math, all mechanisms. When speaking organic, the releveance is there. We who know your selves fairly well know what we want and need and when we masturbate it is a form of relief and self love , its is normal and pure and does not deserve titles.

Okay, I know psychiatry is all nifty and shit and it's fun to make things more complicated than they are, but masturbation is nothing more than a way to decrease your hormonal level. It's not plotted out, it's not scientific or mathematical tinkering, it's "goddamnit, I'm horny, this is annoying me, I need to fap" where the person faps away enough to get rid of the excess sexual tension. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Its not that you want yourself its that an urge is inspired based upon your physical relevances to the world. It is like the idea of a new motor inspiring a new type of car ride. Or a new tree inspiring a new image in the yard.

Really? Cuz I'm pretty sure that it's more of a "damn, I would totally do me if I was flexible enough" than seeing a tree. At least for me it is.

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IT is association . One can associate tight pants with there fine ass, and say that they look good in them, but at the same time an urge can be created due to association.

It precisely makes sense, when you look in the mirror you see yourself in a certain way, and when you look a pair of clothes you associate with them in your mind a certain way that you will be seen. Hot heals , tight dresses, skimpy underwear are all logically things that can turn you on . When you indenitfy with these items, you can allow them to compliment your features, and to appear sexual to man or woman. In the end they can very well turn you on because of the idea of sexual intervention, interaction.

I'm sorry, none of that made any sense to me. Maybe it's because it's 8 in the morning or maybe it's because you just plain read too much into things. Masturbation is masturbation. Wanting to secks yourself is because you turn yourself on and want to secks yourself.

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Yes, to appear as if you are more man to admit to yourself than me , or just to say it. I see no point in wanting to admit to who you are in this thread, or to try to define yourself. If I looked deeply enough I would not call you a narcsofsof whatever, I would understand you.

No, for once I wasn't trying to show you up. I was merely stating that you don't have to get all defensive about being called a narcissist.

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I turn myself on in a sense of other people, not in a sense of myself that is not the pont of this thread, my body is a remote stimulus, to assocation of sexual activities with women.

Now you're making even less sense. I don't know if you mean you see a woman when you look in the mirror, or you picture women when you fap.

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You are not on topic entirely in eyes, so yes I disagree with the definition because defining the topic as something the OP did not intend is not right in my opinion, so here we are again.

Well boo-fucking-hoo, Xeno laid out the definition in black and white, there's no disagreeing or agreeing with it. Definitions differ from opinions, you can't argue with definitions like you can opinions. You still seem to have a hard time accepting anything someone says that differs with your opinion, even an established definition. This IS the debate section, not the agree with everything I say section.

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Psychology, terminology is over rated , and I still say that everyone self loves to an extent and with association is a sexual stimulus for their selves.

Really now? Because in all your posts you tend to over-analyze things and try to make them sound all psychological and stuff. You've really just been going in circles in this entire thread. This is my last reply, because you make no sense whatsoever and you whine whenever someone says something you don't like. Enjoy my absence.

April 27, 2008, 2:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ARC-77

I'm sorry, I'd try to understand and read in between the lines, but bold font really does not help an entire paragraph of fail grammar and spelling. I mean seriously dude, I'm not trying to insult you here or anything, but for god's sake, proofread what you type before you hit submit. Your sentences are so jumbled and your words are so misspelled that I can't make sense out of half of what you say. Maybe more people would agree with you if you were clearer in what you say.

I was just pointing out how you were trying to make masturbation sound nice and fancy by turning a single word into a paragraph long definition.

Okay, I know psychiatry is all nifty and shit and it's fun to make things more complicated than they are, but masturbation is nothing more than a way to decrease your hormonal level. It's not plotted out, it's not scientific or mathematical tinkering, it's "goddamnit, I'm horny, this is annoying me, I need to fap" where the person faps away enough to get rid of the excess sexual tension. Nothing more, nothing less.

No no no, your life before is a calculated science , you do not think about it but complexity creation is a part of every life, so is needs and wants and if analyzed any life it is billions of numbers that add up to something, cause and effect, desire and thing sought out. Yes is is plotted out and premeditated based on our frustrations and how we chose to coupe with life issues, no it is not always realized but it is very much so tinkering .

Really? Cuz I'm pretty sure that it's more of a "damn, I would totally do me if I was flexible enough" than seeing a tree. At least for me it is.

I'm sorry, none of that made any sense to me. Maybe it's because it's 8 in the morning or maybe it's because you just plain read too much into things. Masturbation is masturbation. Wanting to secks yourself is because you turn yourself on and want to secks yourself.

No, for once I wasn't trying to show you up. I was merely stating that you don't have to get all defensive about being called a narcissist.

Now you're making even less sense. I don't know if you mean you see a woman when you look in the mirror, or you picture women when you fap.

Well boo-fucking-hoo, Xeno laid out the definition in black and white, there's no disagreeing or agreeing with it. Definitions differ from opinions, you can't argue with definitions like you can opinions. You still seem to have a hard time accepting anything someone says that differs with your opinion, even an established definition. This IS the debate section, not the agree with everything I say section.

This thread is not about this...

Really now? Because in all your posts you tend to over-analyze things and try to make them sound all psychological and stuff. You've really just been going in circles in this entire thread. This is my last reply, because you make no sense whatsoever and you whine whenever someone says something you don't like. Enjoy my absence.

Good , now I will try to re-establish the topic, thanks for being mature and going.

"This is another topic very hard to begin. I am not sure how to present it.
When you look in the mirror, and you are sexually attracted
. Not because you want to be in bed with yourself
but because you are a sexual stimulus for yourself due to association of sexual attributes , qualities. You are an object to role play desires, sexual fantasy ,so in actual fact you can sincerely turn yourself on by yourself.

Maybe, I will continue to ask the question.

HOLD UP THOUGH, self is of mind and body. So in this case, I do not mean wanting to be in bed with yourself rather associating sexual fantasys with women or men whatever you are into with your physical presence. The idea of self love in the mirror but it is sincere always because their is always a woman in mind. Unless of course you are totally in love with yourself and want to do yourself, but I do not know if that is possible to be like that without the association of women sexual intervention.

If that is the case if someone wanted to smurf theirselves, would that make them gay? Anyways that is a side topic, not the main topic.

When you look in the mirror you see yourself in a certain way, and when you look at a pair of clothes you associate with them in your mind a certain way that you will be seen. So in effect your own image can turn you on sexually in a sincere way. Perhaps more easily seen with clothes or without any at all

For women for example, high heals , tight dresses, skimpy underwear are all logically things that can turn you on . When you indenitfy with these items, you can allow them to compliment your features, and to appear sexual to man or woman. In the end they can very well turn you on because of the idea of sexual intervention, interaction.

The catalyst , stimulus of sexual intervention, interaction can be identified, and also realized, appreciated. Does that make you a narcissism individual if you identify and realize your physical sexual potential , and if say your body's 6 pack turns you on?

We are not talking about extremes here either, this is the plate and everything on it, so be reasonable."

April 27, 2008, 2:42 PM

I think I sort of understand what you're trying to say. Out of curiosity (I don't mean this in a nasty way), is English your first language? You just have strange grammar and spelling, so I wondered.

You mean (for example): men watch porn and imagine themselves as the man in the porn movie in order to get off? Is that the type of self sexual attraction that you mean? If that's the case, I wouldn't necessarily label that narcissism, I would say that's relatively normal. I just think that humans are very self-centered (not in a bad way), so we like to mentally insert ourselves in situations that don't involve us. I think sometimes it's the same when you're watching a movie. You connect on some level with the character because he/she is similar to you. In any case, if that's what you're trying to say, I wouldn't say that's really 'self sexual attraction.' It's more....being self focused.

April 27, 2008, 6:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Erythritol

I think I sort of understand what you're trying to say. Out of curiosity (I don't mean this in a nasty way), is English your first language? You just have strange grammar and spelling, so I wondered.

You mean (for example): men watch porn and imagine themselves as the man in the porn movie in order to get off? Is that the type of self sexual attraction that you mean? If that's the case, I wouldn't necessarily label that narcissism, I would say that's relatively normal. I just think that humans are very self-centered (not in a bad way), so we like to mentally insert ourselves in situations that don't involve us. I think sometimes it's the same when you're watching a movie. You connect on some level with the character because he/she is similar to you. In any case, if that's what you're trying to say, I wouldn't say that's really 'self sexual attraction.' It's more....being self focused.

That is on topic, the topic I dreamed of, thanks for your input. I mean its not precisely the whole detail of my personal take on the topic, but it is very well on topic and a point worth discussion.

Now, would you feel sexual wearing this dress. I admit it is a bit of an example of the predator of prey. Showing it off, feeling comfrontable and lurking. Would you feel sexy in a dress with a figure like this? Dont know your figure so I can not say if you could wear the dress like this.

Much like a model , does the model feel sexy and is she turned on by her role playing or is it just an act. Do you believe that all this sexual fore play turns a model on ?
Do you think that a model feels sexy when she acts in this way?

Same goes for all humans

Due to association and logic, they realize that they can turn women on, the idea is sexual, the idea of being able to turn women on based on their own attributes can logically turn them on.

Not so much masturbation but the idea of your own self turning yourself on due to association. Some people incorrectly call it obsessed self love but I think it is very much so the opposite.

When women dress like that does it turn them on at all, every one self loves to some extent, but it is not high or ego tisitcal to be turned on by your own bodies...

Women always make the up the excuse, it is to feel good about myself but really what is the reason when a girl shows more skin than clothes ? Guys like to look everyone knows that and if you let them they will and if you dont like it then you should not make it so easy to look.

That is the point lol, the dress was googled as "hot dress" Ok, maybe its not your hot dress, it is just an example. The point is that as a dress that attracts the opposite sex, it is also a dress that may make you sexual to be in, or when looking in the mirror turn you on.

Yes, based on associating other lives with yours, common logic and how a man works and how that dress will attract the opposite sex, the thought may turn you on. Not the fact that you find yourself sexy and would sleep with yourself but the idea that someone would, association. If not used correctly the word it can work out here in this case.

The model is an example , relevant to anyone who wears a dress a little playful or to anyone who flirts. The idea of enticing others may entice the person doing it as well.

April 28, 2008, 7:34 AM

Self Sexual attaraction is narcissism. VR is right Xeno has already said this, being sexually attracted to yourself is Narcissism.

I think it does contain elements of homosexuality, as you are attracted to the same sex.

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That is the point lol, the dress was googled as "hot dress" Ok, maybe its not your hot dress, it is just an example. The point is that as a dress that attracts the opposite sex, it is also a dress that may make you sexual to be in, or when looking in the mirror turn you on.

I don't think you understand that there is a difference. If a chick puts on a dress and she feels beautiful, that isn't lust for herself. It's self confidence.
Sometimes when I feel that I'm looking particularly attractive I'd say "DAM I LOOKS GOOd". However that's just a statement of fact. I don't want to have sex with myself, it's recognising something aesthetically pleasing. It's like seeing a painting that you like, you admire its' beauty, but that doesn't equate to sexual desire.

April 28, 2008, 12:59 PM

LOL, not with youself, I just meant to suggest that the idea of turning others on can turn some one on, is this really such a a hard concept. Yes, it may make you touch yourself when you are turned on, maybe even masturbate.

I think it odd to be turned on by one's own body. Turned on by the prospect of turning others on with your body, I can understand that. I think its that prospect that is vital.

See its not that you are turned on to your body it is that you are turned on that ^^^ Which is an aspect of your body.

April 28, 2008, 1:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Korytco

LOL, not with youself, I just meant to suggest that the idea of turning others on can turn some one on, is this really such a a hard concept. Yes, it may make you touch yourself when you are turned on, maybe even masturbate.

I think it odd to be turned on by one's own body. Turned on by the prospect of turning others on with your body, I can understand that. I think its that prospect that is vital.

See its not that you are turned on to your body it is that you are turned on that ^^^

So what you are saying is that by thinking that your body could arouse others turns you on?
That's not that far removed from what I was saying before, because it is only your opinion that other people would find your body arousing. That opinion would probably come from the fact that you believe that your own body is attractive. It's really just that self attraction changing from sub-conscious attraction to a conscious attraction that you are aware of.

April 28, 2008, 1:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Iago

So what you are saying is that by thinking that your body could arouse others turns you on?
That's not that far removed from what I was saying before, because it is only your opinion that other people would find your body arousing. That opinion would probably come from the fact that you believe that your own body is attractive. It's really just that self attraction changing from sub-conscious attraction to a conscious attraction that you are aware of.

I am sorry that it took so long for me to express how I wanted to express the topic. That is the topic. It is not really so much self love in my opinion though, I think it is a desire to be loved by others and loving your tools that you think can get you their , there for I think it is sincere and should not be termed in terminology. Then again, its all opinions. I think everyone yearns for this feeling a tad, everyone. Perhaps not. There are extremists to everything but I do not think that if this previals you must be some sort of extremist.

Psychology is usually the study of a state of mind that can be studied for long periods usually, I personally have experienced this within just moments, its not a constant. LOL I DO NOT always turn myself on, only when I am working out and thinking about women. Which is perfectly normal.

I still sworm away from terminology because every woman that ever wanted a better ass, every guy that every thought he could be a little more muscular , and yearned for this sort of sexual feeling was not a individual suffering from narcissism, nor is the person who experiences these feelings in my opinion.