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November 9, 2008, 9:30 PM
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After the oil crash, we're screwed, well, everyone.
Life will go on, there'll probably be a big, BIG tumult, people going "god, there's no oil anymore", but a few years later we'll probably get used to it, maybe find a new energy resource.
Except, if we find that energy resource before the oil crash...
Another possibility is, that a new world war starts short before the oil crash, 'cause all want the remaining oil.
Probably all just a matter of time, but the true end of the world will be in a long time, when the sun has grown so much that it just melts and "sucks up" the earth.
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November 9, 2008, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CharrX
After the oil crash, we're screwed, well, everyone.
Life will go on, there'll probably be a big, BIG tumult, people going "god, there's no oil anymore", but a few years later we'll probably get used to it, maybe find a new energy resource.
Except, if we find that energy resource before the oil crash...
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There are alternatives to oil. We use oil because it's cheaper and is better.
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Another possibility is, that a new world war starts short before the oil crash, 'cause all want the remaining oil.
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No, there won't be.
That's a ridiculous statement with no evidence at all to back it up.
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Probably all just a matter of time, but the true end of the world will be in a long time, when the sun has grown so much that it just melts and "sucks up" the earth.
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lulwut?
The sun melts?
I gas cannot melt. Ergo, the sun cannot melt.
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November 10, 2008, 1:54 AM
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lulwut?
The sun melts?
I gas cannot melt. Ergo, the sun cannot melt
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I think CharrX was refering to the earth melting. More like the earth being destroyed when the sun expands and engulfs the earth.
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No, there won't be.
That's a ridiculous statement with no evidence at all to back it up.
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Thats why CharrX stated it only as a possibility. Nothing for definate. But I'm sure lots of people have imagined wars brought about by nations wanting control of the last remaining drops of oil... So it's not too much of a silly statement!
Over time the world will die, we can't deny this. The question is will humans still be around when it does? Will they perish with it? Or will they have been long gone?
I don't think the planet is in immediate danger right now, but I'm pretty sure that our continuous burning of greenhouse gasses / dumping of litter, chewing gum (that stuff never leaves places!), plastic bottles etc in the streets, and random places can't be helping the earths survival. But I don't think that we're in immediate danger with all of that. The planet isn't going to go boom, pop, poof. Temperatures may change, but such happens naturally anyway over different times.
Human causes for earths destruction? Sure Nuclear war will hopefully never happen. Everyone is too scared to press the button as it WILL mean the end of large scale civilisation in most of the world, as missiles will apparantly fly everywhere and kill everybody.. Even those not involved in the initial conflict will apparantly press their buttons to wipe out random countries etc. It's a bit like a pub brawl apparantly (nudge one person, make him spill his drink over the next person, who hits the guy on his right, so the guy on his right punches the guy behind him who he thought had hit him, and before you know it the whole room is full of drunken fools fighting for reasons everybody has forgotten, or never knew)... Thats the fiction of what will happen in a nuclear war. Thats what animations and parodies of these events tell us.
Will it be this hectic? I think people have probably thought through situations like this quite a bit. There is little point to randomly firing missiles. If people were ever silly enough to fire their missiles at someone, then they're sentencing theirselves to death anyway, and I'm pretty sure most other countries will just stay out of it for their own survival... Besides, there will be other humans that will survive (though in smaller number, and obviously not able to visit large portions of the world).... But yeah a nuclear war would destroy much of the planet when you think about the poisoning of the landscape as well.
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November 10, 2008, 9:00 AM
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The oil crisis is already being controlled by wars - specifically american aggression. That's not going to change, there won't be a "world war" The parts of the word in poverty just now will simply go into fuel poverty. America and her allies will have enough oil to last through to the emergence of a new, comercially viable (profit making) energy resource.
At least, thats my take on it =)
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November 10, 2008, 9:50 AM
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The earth won't die after many years or so, yet the living things on earth may die a few years from now if the release of greenhouse gases and the effects of human activities continue. Combustion of fossil fuels can cause global warming which will then cause climate change that may cause the extinction of the living things on this planet.
well, that's what i think..
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November 10, 2008, 9:53 AM
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Hmm... Considering that the earth has had much worse slimate disasters than anything we could ever cause (think multiple volcanic eruptions destroying the ozone layer & greenhouse gasses at the same time) And life found a way to survive, i'm going to go ahead and predict that life will ALWAYS survive on earth in one form or another. In fact humans could probably survive in one form or another, since we have the ability to create synthetic sunlight, synthetic heat/cold and using those abilities we could easily continue and exapnd life if we were to do so in a protected environment.
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November 10, 2008, 12:23 PM
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Well, as you now...the world is in a tottal mess..the polution has reach an enormous pic....even if we stop now...nothing can be done.... the world has reach a point of outrage.....no one can help now.... sooner or later everything will disappear...
It's sad..but is the truth...all of this is happening because a lot of gorillas just think about money.... it's fucking (*sorry for the word) retard to think that because of them we are all paying the price.....but after all...maybe we are building our own grave....we need oil to live....to work....to eat....
But...I found on a research that they found a new away to feed our necesseties....Etanol...it's more viable....less expensive...and hardly pollutes.....
Now you ask...
So why don't we use Etanol?
That's hell obvious....Oil Managers....If we don't use oil they won't have money...
Scientists have died because they were researching on this new away of production.....hell's know why..right?? Who could be....I don't need to say...
Now for the more disturbing thing...we can't do a damn thing...it's done... it can't go back...it's living a way down from now on....
Companies still produce and produce because they know ther's nothing to be done now...Now look at they'r inteligence...."If nothing can be done why we should worry? Let's bring the planet down".
Idiots....that way to think it's so damn idiot... I hate them so much...because of them we will lose somebody important...we will lose our lifes.....and the effects are already appearing....
Another thing that completly dissapoints me is that governs are more interested to stop the illegal copies of musics and movies and less care about reallly important things like the hunger.....it's so sad....so incredible bad...
It's painfull but is true....We have the days counted....
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Ok first thing, it isnt just the suits who make money off oil, the industry is massive. Starting with the companies who provide the steel used to make the plate and pipe structures. Then the fabricators who build it, after which it gets shot blasted, painted, tested etc. Then the fabricators off shore who fit everything together and top of that you have welders, riggers, scaffolders, electricians, labourers, all who make a living by working on an oil rig. The industry gives hundreds of millions of people all over the world a good steady income.
The Earth has been around for a good few years and survived all the natural disasters so far, it will not die just because we are using more harmul gasses.
Every few years it seems like some crackpot scientist tries and invents a way of scaring the shit out of everyone by saying wer all gonna die in some horrible way and itl be our own fault. As technology advances scientists will find other fuel sources which we can use, some might be greener some maybe not, what i do know is that when they do invent it il be long dead.
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November 10, 2008, 1:26 PM
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Unlikely. Useable comercial oil will be done before you die, unless you plan on dying in the next 40 years =P
you'll live to see the "next big thing" in oil.
I recommend the TS reads "Failed States" by Noam Chomsky, to give him a deeper and more educated understanding of the ways in which corporations, oil companies and governments work together to control the use and supply of oil =)
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November 10, 2008, 1:40 PM
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Unlikely. Useable comercial oil will be done before you die, unless you plan on dying in the next 40 years =P
you'll live to see the "next big thing" in oil.
I recommend the TS reads "Failed States" by Noam Chomsky, to give him a deeper and more educated understanding of the ways in which corporations, oil companies and governments work together to control the use and supply of oil =)
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See thats debateable there are many who say that oil will only last us another 20 - 40 so years, however they are findin new oil holes every day. With many researchers sayin that it wont run out for another 70+ years which is beyond my lifetime. 89 is too old
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November 11, 2008, 2:21 PM
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