Final Fantasy Forums

Welcome to Final Fantasy Forums, a community where you can discuss your love for all things Final Fantasy. Just go ahead and register for a free account. Community features:
  • The Shoutbox chat system
  • Free arcade
  • An active RPG system powered by Inferno (members may join after 50 posts)
  • Over 15,000 threads and 300,000 posts, and thousands of visitors each day
Go ahead and sign up today. After signing up, you can introduce yourself in the introductions forum.
  
Go Back   Final Fantasy Forums > Gaia > The Sleeping Forest
Reload this Page Should Mentally Retarded People Be Allowed To Vote?
 
The Sleeping Forest Forum for serious discussions on important issues. Debating is encouraged. Spam will not be tolerated here.

View Poll Results: Should Mentally challenged people be allowed to vote?
Yes 2 12.50%
No 8 50.00%
Undecided or Apathetic 6 37.50%
Voters: 16. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Should Mentally Retarded People Be Allowed To Vote?
Old February 5, 2008, 8:03 AM   #1
Après moi, le déluge
L'Éminence Grise has a spectacular aura about
 
L'Éminence Grise's Avatar
Class: Senior Member
Level: 11
HP: 202/220
202/220 (91.82%) 202/220 (91.82%)
MP: 50/400
50/400 (12.5%) 50/400 (12.5%)
EXP: 50
50/100 (50%) 50/100 (50%)
 
Join Date: December 2007
Location: Hunting with Bungalow Bill
Age: 19
Posts: 1,174
Threads: 18
Gil: 24,106
Member No.: 7778
My Mood:
Rep Power: 3
Should Mentally Retarded People Be Allowed To Vote?

The Concept of democracy is that everyone above a certain age (normally 18) is allowed to vote, excluding convicted fellons of course.
therefore, should mentally retarded, deficient, synonym of your choice, be allowed to vote.
they are above the legal age but yet have the intellectual capacity of a person below 18.
so should they be able to vote? and give a reason why
__________________

Made by RandomPokes. For great Justice
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dog Hunter View Post
i just bought FF7 : DOC and when i put it inside my PS2 my PS2 brust into fire
RIP Dog Hunter
Quote:
Originally Posted by D'lain View Post
I use to admin a site called Xenocreation.
LOL it had over 1 million members
Carve your name into my arm.
Instead of stressed, I lie here charmed.
Scan L L'Éminence Grise is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Go to the top of the page
  
Old February 5, 2008, 8:06 AM   #2
Banned
Lord Kaos is on a distinguished road
Class: Banned
Level: 0
HP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
MP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
EXP: 0
/100 (0%) /100 (0%)
 
Join Date: February 2007
Location: My Empire.
Posts: 434
Threads: 9
Gil: 0
Member No.: 4037
Rep Power: 0
Put a poll up, this intrests me... I'm rather neutral on this topic myself (Rare, me without an opinion), but I wanna see others' opinions...
Odds are, this'll turn into a big fight like everything else around here. Ah well. =/
Scan Lord Kaos Lord Kaos is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Go to the top of the page
  
Old February 5, 2008, 8:13 AM   #3
Artemis Male 
This is what EVIL must taste like!
Artemis has a spectacular aura about
 
Artemis's Avatar
Class: Global Moderator
Level: 14
HP: 340/340
340/340 (100%) 340/340 (100%) 340/340 (100%)
MP: 120/120
120/120 (100%) 120/120 (100%) 120/120 (100%)
EXP: 50
50/100 (50%) 50/100 (50%)
 
Join Date: November 2006
Location: North-East England
Age: 16
Posts: 5,874
Threads: 508
Gil: 21,143
Member No.: 8311
My Mood:
Rep Power: 10
It depends on how suggestive they are, if they do everything someone tells them to do, then no. Since then it would just be like that person having a second vote...
__________________


Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!

Just a little bit of

R-E-S-P-E-C-T
Find out what it means to me
R-E-S-P-E-C-T
Take care, TCB
Scan Artemis Artemis is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Go to the top of the page
  
Old February 6, 2008, 12:58 AM   #4
Mitsuki Female 
~Artisan~
Mitsuki is a jewel in the rough
 
Mitsuki's Avatar
Class: Administrator
Level: 23
HP: 300/300
300/300 (100%) 300/300 (100%) 300/300 (100%)
MP: 140/140
140/140 (100%) 140/140 (100%) 140/140 (100%)
EXP: 7
7/100 (7%) 7/100 (7%)
 
Join Date: December 2006
Location: I am from California, but currently residing in Ohio...but not for long. ^_^
Age: 22
Posts: 5,505
Threads: 167
Gil: 21,767
Member No.: 2538
My Mood:
Rep Power: 10
Ah, this topic is too good for Voting Booth.

~Moved to Shinra Building~

Anyway, like Lord Kaos...I shall also wait for people's responses. xD
__________________














Last edited by Mitsuki : February 6, 2008 at 1:04 AM.
Scan Mitsuki Mitsuki is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Go to the top of the page
  
Old February 6, 2008, 1:10 AM   #5
~The Gift of The Goddess~
The Reigning Deity has a spectacular aura about
 
The Reigning Deity's Avatar
Class: Moderator
Level: 14
HP: 71/240
71/240 (29.58%) 71/240 (29.58%)
MP: 100/120
100/120 (83.33%) 100/120 (83.33%)
EXP: 44
44/100 (44%) 44/100 (44%)
 
Join Date: August 2007
Location: At Worlds End~
Age: 25
Posts: 4,670
Threads: 204
Gil: 45,322
Member No.: 6779
My Mood:
Rep Power: 7
I honestly have no idea. I guess if they have enough wits about them to know what they are doing & why then they would be fine.
But would a mentally retarded person know what it was about? Would they even want to, or even care to vote?

I guess if they are just abit slow, then Yeah they can but severly mentally retarded to the point someone has to care for them then no

Going round in circles much
__________________
_~*Thanks to Mitsuki for the sexy sig & avatar*~_


Quote:
Originally Posted by Aztec Triogal View Post
Alright... that's just so wrong. The only thing worse than surprise buttsecks is surprise cucumber buttsecks...

Scan The Reigning Deity The Reigning Deity is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Go to the top of the page
  
Old February 6, 2008, 1:14 AM   #6
Vault Dweller
Demi-Fiend will become famous soon enough
 
Demi-Fiend's Avatar
Class: Full Member
Level: 37
HP: 699/800
699/800 (87.38%) 699/800 (87.38%)
MP: 100/100
100/100 (100%) 100/100 (100%) 100/100 (100%)
EXP: 18
18/100 (18%) 18/100 (18%)
 
Join Date: February 2007
Location: Vault 13... Wait... I got kicked out... F***!
Age: 19
Posts: 854
Threads: 31
Gil: 21,528
Member No.: 4154
My Mood:
Rep Power: 2
Before I start or people start cussing the heck out of me. My little brother has downs syndrome and I am very well aware that he is classified as 'mentally challenged'.

To tell the truth, I feel that even mentally challenged people can be very smart. Hell, my little brother's an example... When he was three, he could play my sister's keyboard. And he still doesn't quite know how to talk, yet he knows how to do a LOT of things that nobody ever showed him how to do.

That said, I believe that mentally-challenge people can actually end up being HIGHLY intelligent. The problem is, they're extremely impressionable, so, when they DO see or hear that someone did something, they tend to copy them. So, I don't think they should vote unless they pass a competency test... Hell, ALL voters should take a competency test. I don't want ditzy people who just like a candidate because they fit their specific demographic to determine the fate of the country. I want them to KNOW what they're voting for.
__________________


All's fair in lust and war, I suppose...

How's my posting...? Tell me here!
Scan Demi-Fiend Demi-Fiend is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Go to the top of the page
  
Old February 6, 2008, 1:28 AM   #7
Peace is the Path.
Hera Ledro has a spectacular aura about
 
Hera Ledro's Avatar
Class: Veteran Member
Level: 6
HP: 174/200
174/200 (87%) 174/200 (87%)
MP: 100/100
100/100 (100%) 100/100 (100%) 100/100 (100%)
EXP: 10
10/100 (10%) 10/100 (10%)
 
Join Date: October 2006
Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia (Canada, eh?)
Age: 19
Posts: 1,542
Threads: 101
Gil: 8,469
Member No.: 844
My Mood:
Rep Power: 5
Alright, I'll give you a post to work with.

This is one of those areas where it is EXTREMELY difficult for me to decide. Why? Because I am related to mental retards.

But both my heart and brain say no. Why? Let's look at it one piece at a time. I'll start with what good it will do them; or rather, what bad it will prevent from befalling them.

By not allowing the mentally retarded people to vote, we prevent them from making a mistake that could have serious repurcussions, especially for them. Without realizing it, these mentally handicapped people could accidentally cheeck off a box in the secret ballot or something that could bring in a government that wouldn't want to act in their best interests. It wouldn't be any fault of theirs, it's just something that would happen.

Not only would it affect them, but it could also bring in an authoritarian or rather unfriendly government into play that would go against the wishes of the rest of the country. This can be reversed, but it could still screw up the system.

Thoughts?
__________________
Jake Long and Felldoh are the reasons I live. I breathe, walk, learn, and most of all, fight, only so that I may carry on their memories. I shall avenge Felldoh, and I shall protect Jake, no matter the cost!

Formerly Hera Ledro

Ghandi: oh-em-gee, chocolate chips are coming out my arse
Virgin Mary: You need to lay off the fucking curry, Ghandi.
Scan Hera Ledro Hera Ledro is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Go to the top of the page
  
Old February 8, 2008, 6:48 AM   #8
Banned
Rockman X has a spectacular aura about
Class: Banned
Level: 0
HP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
MP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
EXP: 0
/100 (0%) /100 (0%)
 
Join Date: July 2007
Location: At Loch Ness. With my plesiosaur.
Age: 21
Posts: 501
Threads: 55
Gil: 0
Member No.: 6308
Rep Power: 0
I have to be honest...

I have never seen a more brainless question posed in my lifetime. Should retarded people be allowed to vote? HELL NO.

If a person is mentally retarded, it's obvious they won't have the ability to reason and think for themselves about what candidate is best, let alone do the research on it. This would only lead to mentally healthy people persuading the handicapped ones into voting for a certain person.

So no. Stupid idea all around. But then again, most people who vote might as well be retarded anyway. Hardly anyone bothers to research the candidates and will just vote for someone "CUZ HE BLACK!" or "CUZ MAI GRANDADDY WAS DEMOCRAT!"
Scan Rockman X Rockman X is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Go to the top of the page
  
Old February 8, 2008, 6:49 AM   #9
Smoke and Arrogance
Erythritol has a spectacular aura about
 
Erythritol's Avatar
Class: Full Member
Level: 0
HP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
MP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
EXP: 0
/100 (0%) /100 (0%)
 
Join Date: August 2007
Location: New York
Age: 21
Posts: 474
Threads: 18
Gil: 0
Member No.: 6775
My Mood:
Rep Power: 2
I'm sorry, no. Well...it depends on what sort of mental handicap the person has. However, if the person possesses a mental handicap that does not enable them to make a rational or informed decision, then no. It would be no more than blindly pulling a random lever. However, at the point where they cannot make a rational/informed decision, why would they care about voting in an election?
__________________

"The day is coming when a single carrot, freshly observed, will set off a revolution."

--Paul Cézanne


o x o My Art o x o
Scan Erythritol Erythritol is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Go to the top of the page