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Old April 16, 2008, 2:20 PM   #41
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You never tried it , and you never gave it a chance even yet some people definately like it and can make aliving off it , where as a lot of rappers fail or do not make it that far. Minus that just because something is raped, changed for the worse that does not mean its not worth having. Rap is actually fairly old in different forms it evolved into this but the concept is actually fairly creative. Finding examples of uncreative artists does not prove anything either . Tell me that I have not proven anything says little because rap music is very diverse, I never claimed to be able to prove your opinions of it are incorrect but damn be sure my own opinions are allowed.
LOLWUT?
I've never tried rap? It was all I listened to for about 3 or 4 years, I was far too black for my own good. Please go on, are there any other things I don't know about myself that you who has never met me knows? I'd be interested in hearing it.
It's hardly finding examples of uncreative artists, just about any rap you could find on youtube or whatever is uncreative, is that proof enough that it's uncreative? Sure, you can find some talanted rappers(oxymoron inoerite) but they are the exception, not the rule.
If it's changed and 'raped' from the original surely it would be better to have the original.

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What you mean is, your arguement fails, you can't prove it, yet you believe your opinion to be valid. Hitler no doubt believed something similar
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Old April 16, 2008, 2:27 PM   #42
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Im sorry I can not talk to you, its like talking to a brick, I am sorry.

Ya know, you call me closed minded hate me for some reason, flame me here and there and say nasty things . You think that I have to always be right and yet Ive sympathized with your side repeatively. Ive tried to be open minded.

I bet there is another nasty user note though from you in my user notes , and that my video page has totally immature, unnecessary garbage comments on it. The more evidence the better. Yes I like something that you do not , a hard concept I know. ITS WAS NOT ARGUMENT , IT was a statement . I asked for thoughts, opinions in post one genius not an argument. I stated my own opinion and yes I keep it as an individual . It is not changing for you.

An argument is much more nasty hate driven than an opinion, you must have an exciting life to carry on like this. EVER HEAR OF A CONVERSATION!? Every statement does not need to be some psycho pathetic argument. One that does not involve hate and always being right ? Ever hear of acceptance ?

Its called being an individual and liking different things, something you claim I am not open to and yet this whole time I have been trying to reason with you and to end this in an open minded way...by even sharing rap music that I like and then you share the worse....

Whatever .

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Old April 16, 2008, 2:53 PM   #43
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Im sorry I can not talk to you, its like talking to a brick, I am sorry.

Ya know, you call me closed minded hate me for some reason, flame me here and there and say nasty things . You think that I have to always be right and yet Ive sympathized with your side repeatively. Ive tried to be open minded.

I bet there is another nasty user note though from you in my user notes , and that my video page has totally immature, unnecessary garbage comments on it. The more evidence the better. Yes I like something that you do not , a hard concept I know. ITS WAS NOT ARGUMENT , IT was a statement . I asked for thoughts, opinions in post one genius not an argument. I stated my own opinion and yes I keep it as an individual . It is not changing for you.

An argument is much more nasty hate driven than an opinion, you must have an exciting life to carry on like this. EVER HEAR OF A CONVERSATION!? One that does not involve hate and always being right ? Ever hear of acceptance ?

Its called being an individual and liking different things, something you claim I am not open to and yet this whole time I have been trying to reason with you and to end this in an open minded way...by even sharing rap music that I like and then you share the worse....

Whatever .
Actually I do have an exciting life, it's one thirty in the morning, so it's not as if I have much else to do.

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ITS WAS NOT ARGUMENT , IT was a statement . I asked for thoughts, opinions in post one genius not an argument. I stated my own opinion and yes I keep it as an individual . It is not changing for you.
No wonder you are an art student, you fail at grammar.
This may have escaped your notice, but this a forum, if it's a statement then write a manifesto, don't have your crap all over the forums and then react when people respond to it. We aren't all sychophants like scribs, we speak our minds, if we find your points to be stupid, we will say so.
Also someone who creates a video about eating an orange should be shot for the hypocracy of suggesting other people don't have lives.

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Im sorry I can not talk to you, its like talking to a brick, I am sorry
Epic Fail, you can't talk to me but,

You Are talking to me.
LOL get out.

You remind me of Tedius, he will say something, then as everyone disproves it, he will say it again, like that is some kind of proof. Your arguement can be summed up as 'rap is creative because there are some rappers who don't suck'.
You know, I don't think that even qualifies as circular logic.

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Yes I like something that you do not , a hard concept I know
DON'T condecend to me, as I'm much smarter than you, mmmmmmmkay sweety?
And for that matter almost anyone is.

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EVER HEAR OF A CONVERSATION
You clearly don't know what Irony is, as this is at least the second you've said something ironic, in one thread.
You start crying because people responded to your statement. Which(I won't go into details here, as your inablility to understand english would confuse you even more.) constitutes a conversation.

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One that does not involve hate and always being right ? Ever hear of acceptance ?
You aren't important enough for me to hate.
Now again with the irony, always being right and acceptance, hmmmm?
Oh that's right, you can't understand the concept that you could be wrong.
Furthermore, you can't accept anyone else's opinion without calling it hatred. People may not like you, but that doesn't mean we all hate you dear. The world can be a scary place, but don't worry. I'm sure someone will hold your hand and comfort you when it gets scary.

P.S. The last part is heavily sarcastic, so any attempt to say this is irony fails, because I intended it to be so.
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Old April 16, 2008, 3:24 PM   #44
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[quote=Iago;334396]Actually I do have an exciting life, it's one thirty in the morning, so it's not as if I have much else to do.


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No wonder you are an art student, you fail at grammar.
This may have escaped your notice, but this a forum, if it's a statement then write a manifesto, don't have your crap all over the forums and then react when people respond to it.
Not every opinion has to be an argument, that is simple and true. With you it seems to be that everything is an argument, not a sign of intelligence but quite the opposite, closed minded and unexplored.

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We aren't all sychophants like scribs, we speak our minds, if we find your points to be stupid, we will say so.
No, you could just post your opinion if you were mature and as intelligent as you think, but you rather fight like a primitive animal and not be open minded. If you were as intelligent as you think you would not have to be rude and violent to make a point like a pack of wolves, you would be reasonable and have a clean , tiddy and direct conversation where everyone could discuss real ideas and maturely.



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Also someone who creates a video about eating an orange should be shot for the hypocracy of suggesting other people don't have lives.
I did it for fun, it was in the morning and I had nothing else to do.


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Epic Fail, you can't talk to me but,

You Are talking to me.
LOL get out.
I am wasting my time I admit ,and I do not consider this talking I consider it trying to talk to yes almost a brick. It is extremely obvious that we fail to communicate well "talk" and you , Einstein just proved it correct. "Epic Fail"....nice....

Its very hard to talk to you. I can only try.


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You remind me of Tedius, he will say something, then as everyone disproves it, he will say it again, like that is some kind of proof. Your arguement can be summed up as 'rap is creative because there are some rappers who don't suck'.
You know, I don't think that even qualifies as circular logic.
Opinions, and what we enjoy can be very circular . I gave examples and tried to explain myself only a moron in this thread could not reason for him or herself how someone could enjoy something and maybe not even fully understand why him or herself. I like the videos I posted and I never had to think about it or write a book about why. I enjoy them and what sells and buys in the music world can be talented or not based on opinion, I enjoy it and think it is talented. I do not need to dramatize why.

"I just think that it does, I am not going to say it does not simply to be open minded, then I would have no mind of my own and I would just be giving into others ideas and individuality and giving up my own....DA!"


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DON'T condecend to me, as I'm much smarter than you, mmmmmmmkay sweety?
And for that matter almost anyone is.
High opinion of yourself and low opinion of me, of course if you have a low opinion of me then your comment means little to me .You obviously once again do not respect me so you set your comment up to fail, nice esp with your past brilliant actions of flaming me over the net, your bias is blatant and well Im not impressed here , not a bit ....Yah you sound real reasonable, thoughtful genius as you post on my youtube "I hope you fcking die " "your ugly" things like that. Sounds real intelligent and mature, reasonable. The logic is infallible , you are right....I really do care what you have to say about my witts. You are so original at insulting me too after all.





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You clearly don't know what Irony is, as this is at least the second you've said something ironic, in one thread.
You start crying because people responded to your statement. Which(I won't go into details here, as your inablility to understand english would confuse you even more.) constitutes a conversation.
An argument to you. I was crying? You wont get into the details ? Please dont because your interpretation of the details once again shows, your closed minded, brilliant bias.


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You aren't important enough for me to hate.
Now again with the irony, always being right and acceptance, hmmmm?
Oh that's right, you can't understand the concept that you could be wrong.
Im not important enough, I think you tube would beg to differ. Keep trying to prove your point but you are proving something else , about yourself. Everyone is welcomed to check my user notes and video page.

I am not wrong to feel that rap is talented
"I just think that it does, I am not going to say it does not simply to be open minded, then I would have no mind of my own and I would just be giving into others ideas and individuality and giving up my own....DA!"

If you were as intelligent as you think you are you would understand this .

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Furthermore, you can't accept anyone else's opinion without calling it hatred. People may not like you, but that doesn't mean we all hate you dear. The world can be a scary place, but don't worry. I'm sure someone will hold your hand and comfort you when it gets scary.
Yah well I call it hate when someone knows my video page, has the same opinions on me here and there , so I know its you and flames me , tells me to fcking die and that I am ugly...your a real Einstein , arent you ? The evidence is all over how immature you are. This just helped . I know about the world, I am older than you. By your immaturity here and on you tube I can tell that you are still in HS...by this drama I can still tell that you belong there and by your immaturity I can just laugh this all off.

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P.S. The last part is heavily sarcastic, so any attempt to say this is irony fails, because I intended it to be so.

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Alright, this thread has gotten a little too out of hand. I'm going to stop this now so it doesn't get any worse. I'd prefer not to see anymore bashing the guy just because he likes rap and finds it interesting. We all have our own opinions but we need to stop bashing each other, so it doesn't go around like clockwork. Also, I've been seeing this go off-topic a few times. Please keep the thread on topic or I will have to close it. Thank you.
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Alright, this thread has gotten a little too out of hand. I'm going to stop this now so it doesn't get any worse. I'd prefer not to see anymore bashing the guy just because he likes rap and finds it interesting. We all have our own opinions but we need to stop bashing each other, so it doesn't go around like clockwork. Also, I've been seeing this go off-topic a few times. Please keep the thread on topic or I will have to close it. Thank you.
Just close it , history repeats itself Tifa, I can tell you this threads fortune as if I was psychic.
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