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April 24, 2008, 10:03 AM
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Party it up!
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Hey, I never force people to do anything I do, I don't agree with peer-pressure. I'm all about choice.
I don't enjoy my life just to smoke, or for the smoking, I just enjoy my life with smoking in it. Someone asked me a few days ago why I didn't try to make my life longer (of course this person threw my fiance at me, which was bullshit). The fact is, I don't really want to live to be 80. I don't want to die at 50, but I don't want to have this extansive life span anyway. I just want to live. Not worry about the future or my life span.
*shrug* I've never really had proactive solutions presented to me. That's not to say I don't do some pro-active things, I just also do unproactive ones. I live for the variety,lol. Alot of it also depends on the social groups your used to gowing up in. If you hang with the more athletic/extracurricular active people, chances are your won't be into drugs.
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April 24, 2008, 1:28 PM
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Yeah yeah, keep calling me ignorant lol, but never gonna come true. But whatever helps you sleep at night.
And you digress from the point, the site presents many of the problems the use of cannabis will present if you use it habitually. Let's compare a harvard school to where you go yours from lol. Rather or not you want to continue with excuses, facts are facts. Let's see how much damage is done to a monkey's liver if it drank a shot of whiskey for a year, everyday. Not much, but let's do that for 20 years. Add in factors of age, weakening immune system, and years and years of abuse. Things tend to get worse.
But delusions are delusions, whether you want to believe it or not, it is infact, illegal because it is bad for your health. Not because someone racists doesn't like it.
I think you need to stay away from the net, your keyboard is turning into a sword lol.
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Your debating, to use a phrase that I've come to like, is filled with lots of ad hominems. All you seem to be doing is attacking me, and not offering a whole lot of evidence to your points. At least I do both.
Oh, and fyi, I took classes at Harvard and got As. Kthx.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out that very frequent use of pot is bad for you. I never tried to argue that. I'm just trying to argue that marijuana is not some lethal, terrible drug. Occasional use will probably have little to no longer term effects on your health. And it doesn't kill your brain cells, nor does it make you piss blood. I just find it relatively entertaining that you keep making strange claims, with little to no evidence to back them up, and then calling me a keyboard warrior when I completely debunk your clichéd drug myths with, y'know, actual facts and studies.
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April 24, 2008, 10:16 PM
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Okay, well think of it this way then. You know drug dealers and what not put chemicals into cannabis, to help strengthen its high. And I'm not attacking you lol, I never attacked you. And I couldn't care less about your classes at harvard, unless you studied as a MD, your classes are irreverent to the subject.
Even using it short terms can cause damage, and yes, it does kill brain cells lol. You can go ahead and keep saying that won't change the fact that it does. And you are a keyboard warrior, sweetheart. All you ever do is spit out insults and use google lol. Sounds like an arrogant person who just likes being right, whether they really are or not.
But your attitude couldn't mean less to me, I know my facts. You act like you have more information than me, by the simple fact you typed in crap from google. Sorry the internet is so impersonal and I can't tape every talk I've had with the Nevada State Commission and its MD's for you. Not only that I have MD's who work at the xyience gym, and we frequently chat about things like this.
At least I didn't read all my facts from a few posts on google search pages, love. I guess having an opinion of my own, and actually asking doctors questions like these, is ignorant of me right?
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April 25, 2008, 10:35 AM
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Okay, well think of it this way then. You know drug dealers and what not put chemicals into cannabis, to help strengthen its high. And I'm not attacking you lol, I never attacked you. And I couldn't care less about your classes at harvard, unless you studied as a MD, your classes are irreverent to the subject.
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All you seem to be able to do is call me ignorant and offer absolutely no proof for your arguments. I've also noticed that people tend to use the words "honey," "dear," and "sweetheart" not only condescendingly, but also when they're totally losing the debate. Which you are. I only mentioned that I took classes at Harvard because you said, and I quote, "Let's compare a harvard school to where you go yours from lol." Well lol, I went to Harvard, so back off, k? I'd also like to point out that the "evidence" from that Harvard site that you used to try and support what little point you have is from Harvard law school. Now, last time I checked, law school has absolutely nothing to do with science or medicine. So, just like my Harvard classes were irrelevent to the subject, so, too, is that site you attempted to use as evidence. Oh, not only irrelevent but outdated too!
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Even using it short terms can cause damage, and yes, it does kill brain cells lol. You can go ahead and keep saying that won't change the fact that it does. And you are a keyboard warrior, sweetheart. All you ever do is spit out insults and use google lol. Sounds like an arrogant person who just likes being right, whether they really are or not.
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So do you like making random declaritive statements with no proof? Because you seem to be doing it a lot. See, this is the attack that I'm talking about. I've been calling you ignorant, and actually disproving your points with actual studies and evidence. You are telling me I'm wrong, calling me names, and then using no evidence to back up your claims. You fail. And then accuse ME of spitting out insults. Ps, I already provided a legitimate scientific study that refuted the claim that weed kills brain cells. You did not provide any support to your claim that it does. Thus, it is simply a matter of your opinion vs the actual scientific study that supports my argument. I really hope you don't write term papers this way.
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But your attitude couldn't mean less to me, I know my facts. You act like you have more information than me, by the simple fact you typed in crap from google. Sorry the internet is so impersonal and I can't tape every talk I've had with the Nevada State Commission and its MD's for you. Not only that I have MD's who work at the xyience gym, and we frequently chat about things like this.
At least I didn't read all my facts from a few posts on google search pages, love. I guess having an opinion of my own, and actually asking doctors questions like these, is ignorant of me right?
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Okay, see, again with the personal attacks, vague claims of knowledge, and absolute lack of proof. In both the scientific and academic community, people would LAUGH at you. You can't just make claims and then not back them up. Whether pot kills brain cells isn't a matter of opinion. You haven't cited any studies or any other scientific or medical evidence. I'm not an internet warrior, I'm just smarter than you. Deal with it. And stop calling me sweetheart. It's just creepy as hell.
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April 25, 2008, 10:55 AM
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Real quick to get it out of the way, GoldenChocoboMaster, it's nice to see at least two people who have two different views can have an intellectual conversation. If I offended you in any way, I didn't mean to come across that way and am sorry. I know when I said "Pot smoking losers" I jumped the gun with words too fast and threw out an insult, but never meant you were a loser in any way. I think you're a stand up person for actually having a conversation, not like some people.
And Yeah to others, I'm making personal attacks, you know I'll leave it at this before you turn into a free for all bitch fest. Harvard is a nice university, given that. But it doesn't matter how high brow your university is, you can get a Harvard education anywhere, for a lot less money. You pretty much just went to Harvard for bragging rights.
And yeah, let's completely ignore the amazing power you know as google for all your pot smoking needs. You're a such a hypocrite to even try to say I'm attacking you lol, every time you get into a debate with people who disagree with ya, you just throw out insults. Really makes you look intelligent sweetheart, so keep doin' it!
As far as this discussion with weed goes, it's done and out. You've turned this into an insult fest, and I've said what I've said. Whether you want to believe it or not, that's your problem, lol. So I wash my hands of this crap, go to Harvard and tell people this, they'll probably laugh at you hun.
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April 25, 2008, 12:31 PM
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Party it up!
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*shrug* I like to debate?
You never offended me, fact is, people of the pot are used to discrimination,lol 
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April 25, 2008, 1:08 PM
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Real quick to get it out of the way, GoldenChocoboMaster, it's nice to see at least two people who have two different views can have an intellectual conversation. If I offended you in any way, I didn't mean to come across that way and am sorry. I know when I said "Pot smoking losers" I jumped the gun with words too fast and threw out an insult, but never meant you were a loser in any way. I think you're a stand up person for actually having a conversation, not like some people.
And Yeah to others, I'm making personal attacks, you know I'll leave it at this before you turn into a free for all bitch fest. Harvard is a nice university, given that. But it doesn't matter how high brow your university is, you can get a Harvard education anywhere, for a lot less money. You pretty much just went to Harvard for bragging rights.
And yeah, let's completely ignore the amazing power you know as google for all your pot smoking needs. You're a such a hypocrite to even try to say I'm attacking you lol, every time you get into a debate with people who disagree with ya, you just throw out insults. Really makes you look intelligent sweetheart, so keep doin' it!
As far as this discussion with weed goes, it's done and out. You've turned this into an insult fest, and I've said what I've said. Whether you want to believe it or not, that's your problem, lol. So I wash my hands of this crap, go to Harvard and tell people this, they'll probably laugh at you hun.
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First off, I told you to stop calling me sweetheart. It's fucking condescending and sexist. You can have absolutely NO right to be condescending towards me, because as I said, I'm smarter than you are. And that's not meant to be an insult. You clearly have no clue how to debate, support a point, or present an argument. Again, I'm not saying this to be inflammatory. You've just demonstrated this through your actions.
I am not narrow-minded. If you were actually CAPABLE of supporting your point, I would give you some sort of credit. But you just aren't. Notice how I've asked you SEVERAL times, and actually rather politely, for evidence supporting your point, and you have yet to produce any. In fact, all you keep doing is attacking strawmen (to borrow an Angelus term) and being condescending towards me. In fact, this entire post of yours added NOTHING to the debate. I throw insults at people who deserve them. Such as, I don't know, people who pretend to know what they're talking about yet provide no evidence. In this thread you have only made unsubstantiated claims and then thrown a little hissy fit when I disproved them with actual evidence. I asked you, in the previous post, to post some sort of evidence to back up your claims. You have failed to do so. Instead, you decided to attack me, the fact I went to Harvard, and completely veer from the subject. Notice I *never* veered from the subject. I am MORE than willing to back up my points with evidence. You're "washing yours hands" of this debate because you can't actually back up any of your claims. You have failed.
Stop acting like the moral superior here. You tried to attack me by saying that Harvard was better than whatever college I went to. When that failed because I HAVE gone to Harvard, you tried to trash the fact I've gone to Harvard. Who do you think you're fooling exactly? Maybe you should just leave this thread with your little tail between your legs.
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April 25, 2008, 4:27 PM
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Excelsior!
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Please start sticking to the subject. The next post about someone insulting another will be DELETED.
Also Dark Adonis Wilt - Stop making these silly assumptions about weed. You haven't provide a source to back up your argument.
Yeah, you wanna talk about REEEAAALLLLYYY bad drugs. Well then... There is heroin, cocaine, crystal meth, and alcohol. My god, get it through your thick skull! Weed is not that bad! In fact, it's better to smoke weed than cigarettes.
She didn't go to Harvard for bragging rights, she went there for summer school. She is helping you how to argue by the way. :/
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April 25, 2008, 4:32 PM
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FORT SMITH, Ark. -- Police have arrested a pizza parlor manager on charges alleging he sold marijuana out of his drive-through window in Fort Smith, Ark.
Authorities said Monday that state and local investigators acting on a tip went to the Pizza Hut restaurant and found six ounces of marijuana and a set of digital scales in the manager's office.
Police said they arrested 28-year-old manager Aaron Massey on Friday on a charge of possession of marijuana with intent to distribute.
Massey has been released on $3,500 bail.
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Well thats interesting. A "smart" deal as far as stoners go, I suppose. Thoughts?
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