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Old April 23, 2008, 8:12 AM   #21
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Yeah I'm really pretending

http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/evidenc.../Health_1.html

Don't make this into a personal attack, honestly calling people ignorant makes you a keyboard warrior. It's really annoying.
I'm not a keyboard warrior. You are ignorant. I'm just calling it like I see it. That site was a culmination, according to the site, of a three week LAW course. And it was last updated in 1999. That's almost ten years ago. I think the studies I provided (which were actually done by people who have, y'know, medical degrees) are a little more accurate and contemporary. The study I cited was done in 2006. Hmmm....information from 9 years ago on a fairly new and still relatively mysterious topic vs information from two years ago from a professor of Medicine. I think I'll go with the latter, thanks.

And on that website, it says nothing about holes in your brain. I think you're just a) making things up or b) regurgitating some bullshit you learned in DARE in fifth grade.
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Old April 23, 2008, 8:17 AM   #22
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I'm not a keyboard warrior. You are ignorant. I'm just calling it like I see it. That site was a culmination, according to the site, of a three week course. And it was last updated in 1999. That's almost ten years ago. I think the studies I provided (which were actually done by people who have, y'know, medical degrees) are a little accurate and contemporary. The study I cited was done in 2006. Hmmm....information from 9 years ago on a fairly new and still relatively mysterious topic vs information from two years ago from a professor of Medicine. I think I'll go with the latter, thanks.

And on that website, it says nothing about holes in your brain. I think you're just a) making things up or b) regurgitating some bullshit you learned in DARE in fifth grade.
Yeah yeah, keep calling me ignorant lol, but never gonna come true. But whatever helps you sleep at night.

And you digress from the point, the site presents many of the problems the use of cannabis will present if you use it habitually. Let's compare a harvard school to where you go yours from lol. Rather or not you want to continue with excuses, facts are facts. Let's see how much damage is done to a monkey's liver if it drank a shot of whiskey for a year, everyday. Not much, but let's do that for 20 years. Add in factors of age, weakening immune system, and years and years of abuse. Things tend to get worse.

But delusions are delusions, whether you want to believe it or not, it is infact, illegal because it is bad for your health. Not because someone racists doesn't like it.

I think you need to stay away from the net, your keyboard is turning into a sword lol.
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Old April 23, 2008, 10:21 AM   #23
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I wish that would happen here, would have a good enough reason to go to MaccyD's for a change

As for Cannabis being badz, I wouldn't trust the offical 'facts' for shit. Any smart arsed basterd with a flashy PhD or equal 'i r smart' qualification could prove that a bag of Cannabis he is testing is really bad for the brain, and they would be right, but what they tend to not take into consideration is the breed and variation of the plant. You could have some mega fucked up chronic that has been lased with some other drug coming from one place whilst there is a less harmless yet stoner satisfactory strand from another. Luckly for me I know exactly where my smokage comes from and its nowhere near as hameful as what some people with the so called "facts" preach. Not saying it is hameless mind, just not 'uber omgz mi branz iz deaded n r parnoidz'.
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Old April 23, 2008, 2:25 PM   #24
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At first when I saw this thread title, I like laughed for ten seconds, then I realized how dumb it was. I really don't like any drugs no matter how many 'positive' effects they have to counterbalance the negative ones, so it's kind of disturbing to hear of something like that happening. What's scary is that people can be dumb enough to do such a thing at a public restaurant. v_v
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Old April 23, 2008, 9:18 PM   #25
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-hallucinogenic?
THC is not a hallucinogenic....

As for the 'health' issue, everything nowadays reduces your health. Hell, most people are commiting slow suicide just by their diet. Cell phones and radio towers all give off radiation, just about everything has been proven to give you some form of cancer or disease, and lets add the percentage of the world that believes in 'free-love' and upping the cases of STD's.

People vary in health, natrually, but when it comes right down to it, most people are damaging themselves in one form or another.
Who are we to condemn them? Everyone has the right to make their own decisions. If a person KNOWS what they are doing is damaging, and choose to still do it, it is not 'stupidity', but a CHOICE. If you disagree, you are calling all smokers, drinkers, obese people, cutters, school-skippers, not-enough-sleep people, ect ect. stupid.
I think that would a very broad and biased generalization.

I smoke both ciggerettes and green, and I am aware with every inhale that I am damaging my body. I am also aware that i am straining my body further by not sleeping enough, and not eating enough. However these are my habits, and these are choices made by with knowing full and well that i am not acting in a 'healthy' way.
Being healthy is boring. What's the point of having a life if you don't experience what you want to? Everyone chooses what habits interest them, and base their lifestyle on such.
Who are the 'healthy' people to condemn the 'non-healthy' ones.
Have you ever noticed that drug users/smokers/drinkers don't care if someone doesn't do what they do, but its the non-users, non-smokers, and non-drinkers that have such a problem with us? Back off people, we don't preach to you, we don't want to hear it. Chances are, nothing you say is going to change our minds.

Also, as for THC being so -un-healthy-, if that were true, than why would the government allow it to be used legally in special cases? If it were that damaging, I don't think it would be approved by the very system against it's use.
Also, there is currently a bill under view about legalizing small amounts. I don't think it matters really, because people who smoke allready do, and making it legal probably wouldn't make too many people pick up the habit. It's still a matter of choice.

As for ciggerettes and drinking, I don't see any health benefits except for red wine in reasonable amounts. I agree, they mess you up.
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Old April 23, 2008, 9:43 PM   #26
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-hallucinogenic?
THC is not a hallucinogenic....

As for the 'health' issue, everything nowadays reduces your health. Hell, most people are commiting slow suicide just by their diet. Cell phones and radio towers all give off radiation, just about everything has been proven to give you some form of cancer or disease, and lets add the percentage of the world that believes in 'free-love' and upping the cases of STD's.

People vary in health, natrually, but when it comes right down to it, most people are damaging themselves in one form or another.
Who are we to condemn them? Everyone has the right to make their own decisions. If a person KNOWS what they are doing is damaging, and choose to still do it, it is not 'stupidity', but a CHOICE. If you disagree, you are calling all smokers, drinkers, obese people, cutters, school-skippers, not-enough-sleep people, ect ect. stupid.
I think that would a very broad and biased generalization.

I smoke both ciggerettes and green, and I am aware with every inhale that I am damaging my body. I am also aware that i am straining my body further by not sleeping enough, and not eating enough. However these are my habits, and these are choices made by with knowing full and well that i am not acting in a 'healthy' way.
Being healthy is boring. What's the point of having a life if you don't experience what you want to? Everyone chooses what habits interest them, and base their lifestyle on such.
Who are the 'healthy' people to condemn the 'non-healthy' ones.
Have you ever noticed that drug users/smokers/drinkers don't care if someone doesn't do what they do, but its the non-users, non-smokers, and non-drinkers that have such a problem with us? Back off people, we don't preach to you, we don't want to hear it. Chances are, nothing you say is going to change our minds.

Also, as for THC being so -un-healthy-, if that were true, than why would the government allow it to be used legally in special cases? If it were that damaging, I don't think it would be approved by the very system against it's use.
Also, there is currently a bill under view about legalizing small amounts. I don't think it matters really, because people who smoke allready do, and making it legal probably wouldn't make too many people pick up the habit. It's still a matter of choice.

As for ciggerettes and drinking, I don't see any health benefits except for red wine in reasonable amounts. I agree, they mess you up.
Okay put it this way, if someone is dying of cancer and normal pain killers or endorphins just aren't working. They give them cannabis to help soothe the pain till they die. In other cases they use it to help chemotherapy patients get over their nausea from treatments, so they can eat. Keeping healthy through cancer treatments is very important. What damage is done through THC is worth getting if you are dying from a disease like cancer =/.

But I wanna know, what's the excuses of all the pot smokers out there who have no reason to smoke it, other than the pure fact they wanna get high. Same thing can be said for people who abuse alcohol, using it as a way to get drunk.

As much as you people wanna avoid the truth about it, it is bad for you. And if you do it, you increase the chances of you dying from it. Some of you seem so bold to say you don't care, but when you're coughing up blood, or pissing blood, you won't have such a smug attitude. People act tough when they have no idea what kind of pain they speak of. Cancer is not a fun disease, and most liver and lung cancers are very aggressive, and are very resistant to chemotherapies.
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Old April 23, 2008, 10:47 PM   #27
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"-But I wanna know, what's the excuses of all the pot smokers out there who have no reason to smoke it, other than the pure fact they wanna get high. Same thing can be said for people who abuse alcohol, using it as a way to get drunk. "

Well, how else are you going to get high, and how else are you going to get drunk? That's the point. That's why we do it, that's our reason. No, our reason isn't that we have some drastic illness, but it's still a reason however much it is viewed as 'invalid'.

I've seen cancer in my family, I know what it can do to you, I have seen how unpleasent it is. But hell, if I'm going to be chillen on this planet MORE, after all the shit that has allready come with it, I'm gonna NEED to get high to survive it,lol.

Some people just don't fear dealth, but rather, celebrate the time we have and experience it in the fullest
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You don't fear death because right now, you have no reason to fear it. You can look at cancer as being "unpleasant", but to understand the pain of it, so strong not even morphine will soothe it, it's pretty radical. And you don't need to get high, or drunk to enjoy life what so ever.

But whatever floats your boat mate, I'm in no position to judge how you live your life.

And just so you know, if cancer is something that runs in your family, it should be more of a reason for you not to do those things, because chances are you have risk factors genetics wise against you already.
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You don't fear death because right now, you have no reason to fear it. You can look at cancer as being "unpleasant", but to understand the pain of it, so strong not even morphine will soothe it, it's pretty radical. And you don't need to get high, or drunk to enjoy life what so ever.

But whatever floats your boat mate, I'm in no position to judge how you live your life.

And just so you know, if cancer is something that runs in your family, it should be more of a reason for you not to do those things, because chances are you have risk factors genetics wise against you already.

No, I do not fear death because I have allready faced it, multiple times. I'm not trying to sound macho, but technically, I shouldn't be alive. It is through these experiences that I have come to realize fear cannot govern your life. You shouldn't have to limit yourself, or shackle yourself to a certain lifestyle, because you are afraid of the pain or consequences.
Live Life with no regrets.
Love life and dance through life with your arms open to the end, embracing it. I take a certain revere in the thought of death, it is not the 'end' of us, but rather, the time in which we transend a new plane of living, wether we are in 'prime' health or not.
When a person experiences pain, and near-death, one begins to lose their fear of it. The person tends to let no fear govern them, and the person tends to want to experience as much as they can because they, more than many people, realize life is short and precious and meant to be lived to the fullest degree in THAT persons mind.

I agree, you dont need to drink or get high to have a good time.
but sometimes, after a 14 hour work day on my feet, and 3 hours of sleep, and a full-time relationship, and the stresses of everyday life,, I really just want to get stoned and chillax.
Does that mean i think you should?
Not at all, in fact, Kudos to you for having such a healthy lifestyle. part of me admires it and wishes I could do the same thing....
the other part of me is still a total stoner
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