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Old August 18, 2008, 4:05 PM   #11
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It would be easy for me to say that I accept and it´s noting to do with me and I don´t have any phobia of this kind of relations, but if I knew some real situation like this I wouldn´t be so sure of myself, or maybe I would get distance from the persons who have an incest relationship for the simple fact that I can think like an human being and it never happened with me.

And that is probably an anti-evolution of humans as thinking beings, or maybe not in other theories. One thing I do know: this situations appears when two persons (in the same famillly of course) live far from society, or simply they don´t want to have contact with it and they will eventually approach themselves to the person above.
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It may be a way of life for some, but the way some people are brought up incest might not even be an option.

It depends on perspective.
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Old August 19, 2008, 2:19 AM   #13
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incest is for desperate people without morals nuff said


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People are amusing. They have sex with the people they love, and won't have sex with their relatives, even if they love them.

Well, from an evolutionary perspective, sex with organisms from different families is more beneficial because it encourages genetic recombination, and therefore, higher success for survival. But obviously, people don't see it that way. If I could ask why people said incest is disgusting, could they tell me why?

I don't understand why people feel so strongly about it. I only know the disadvantages of it from a scientific viewpoint.
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People are amusing. They have sex with the people they love, and won't have sex with their relatives, even if they love them.
Yes, but love isn't just romantic love. There's eros and agape and philia.
Huge difference tbh.

The prejudice against incest is due to society, so if we were to take away society incest would not be frowned upon. That being said, society is civilisation and therefore cannot be taken away. And I don't see a prejudice against incest as negative, as incest is bad from an evolutionary viewpoint.
Which makes it different from racism and homophobia.
Though I suppose you could argue that homosexuality prevents children altogether, but that is an entirely different matter.
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Well, Incest between brothers and sisters and cousins is much different than Incest between a parent and child, which I think is wrong no matter what way you look at it.

I don't think you can argue that we've been taught to think incest is wrong. There is no example of human culture in which incest is common (yes, amongst royalty in some cultures but that's a small sub-section and for political reasons, it was not normal for the general population). Yes, incest does happen, but it's not the general trend. Amongst our closest cousins (great apes) incest is not common either. In fact, most female monkeys are highly attracted to strange males.

I'm referring to relations with your siblings or parents. Relationships with cousins are a different story. In some countries, such as many Islamic countries, the most respected marriages were marriages of first cousins because the families were already close and it meant not having to deal with allying oneself with a stranger. Also, in European history, especially among the upper classes, it was not uncommon to be betrothed to a first cousin. However, from reading ethnographies about countries where first cousin marriage is common, there are many members of society that were unhappy and disgusted by the idea of marrying their first cousin because they felt too close.

Genetically it's not that dangerous to reproduce with your first cousin. If it happens repeatedly over generation after generation you start to get problems, but every few generations won't affect your children too badly. I think how much the idea of reproducing with your cousin disgusts you has to do with the people in question and with how close you were to your cousin growing up.


Most people I think will seek someone who they didn't feel like they had grown up with. Yet, some people marry their best friend or neighbor from like the third grade, so I suppose it's not a stretch that some people feel attraction to their brother or sister. but it's not common.

Do I think it's the worst thing in the world? No, but it's tricky. See if you have two siblings that are close in age like within a year or three and its mutual and with both consent and they are both at an age where they can make decisions about those things, then there's not much I can say about it, such as if it were a 16 and a seventeen year old sibling or two adult siblings of any age difference.

Yet, that's a very small window. Unfortunately what happens more often is an older sibling abuses the power they have over a younger sibling and that younger sibling carries that sexual experience and guilt with them their whole life.

Like...if a ten year old boy fondled his five year old sister who at the time said it was okay. But the five year old doesn't understand what is going on in the same way the ten year old does, and that's wrong.

The biggest problem with incest (beyond having messed up children) is that someone can abuse familial power and rights to use another person. As in, "I'll exile you from this family if you tell anyone I touched you." Or "I'll tell mom you did this if you don't kiss me." Or "I won't pay for your college unless you have sex with me."

Our society (and many societies around the world) in its most basic form involves immediate family units that protect its members, so abusing that projection is extremely offensive to this culture.
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