If you could explain everything that

April 28, 2008, 1:58 PM

LOL, ask about the thread before you assume about it please.

If you could explain everything that you had to say in life without stumbling for the right words and if it all came across clear , would your life be better or worse? Would your life be more for filling or less for filling?

Now, I am not saying if you were a genius, although you may become one if you could express all your thoughts clearly, I am asking if everything you wanted to ask or to say was clear to yourself and to others.

Would you become a genius or an idiot drone ?

I am not asking if it were all cannon like my previous thread either, not that if it is all definable. Instead that everything you want to be expressed as an individual can be ideal to yourself, with ideal results as an individual. I am asking if as an individual if everything was clear ,about you in your own self expression ,would your life be better or worse.

People want the best of the better. They want more money more this, they can become spoiled, what if your thoughts and words were all clear in a "very wealthy" amount ?

If you could ask any question or get any point across of your own, not to summon the knowledge of the world but instead to put your own to effective and clear use.

Is it more or less to explore ?When you need to explore things more that you are not certain about, when you need to try to explain them more often, are you more or less intelligent ?

When you are constantly trying to make new discoveries and exploring ways to express them, is that better or worse than immediately knowing how to discuss them ,or to express them ?

If you had some magical bs power to express things correctly the first time would life be worth living ? Would it save time or would it just make you bored out of your mind.

Like the question asked, if you could live forever, what if you could live your whole life in complete clarity ?

Would you learn quicker in life if all you had to ask was valid, or do you think people learn quicker with more pressure , and with a lack of expression, because they have more to prove and to say?

Would what a person be like if he/ she could explain every question that they ever had in the matter that they desired to immediately ? Would their demand for the question's quality most likely continue to have higher demands ? Would the demand for the quality of the question become less significant ?

Would some one who expressed their selves always clearly be a genius ?
Or would that person become an simpleton ?

Would you desire to always express yourself clearly and to be understood?

April 28, 2008, 2:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Korytco

LOL, ask about the thread before you assume about it please.

If you could explain everything that you had to say in life without stumbling for the right words and if it all came across clear , would your life be better or worse? Would your life be more for filling or less for filling?

Now, I am not saying if you were a genius, although you may become one if you could express all your thoughts clearly, I am asking if everything you wanted to ask or to say was clear to yourself and to others.

Would you become a genius or an idiot drone ?

I am not asking if it were all cannon like my previous thread either, not that if it is all definable. Instead that everything you want to be expressed as an individual can be ideal to yourself, with ideal results as an individual. I am asking if as an individual if everything was clear ,about you in your own self expression ,would your life be better or worse.

People want the best of the better. They want more money more this, they can become spoiled, what if your thoughts and words were all clear in a "very wealthy" amount ?

If you could ask any question or get any point across of your own, not to summon the knowledge of the world but instead to put your own to effective and clear use.

Is it more or less to explore ?When you need to explore things more that you are not certain about, when you need to try to explain them more often, are you more or less intelligent ?

When you are constantly trying to make new discoveries and exploring ways to express them, is that better or worse than immediately knowing how to discuss them ,or to express them ?

If you had some magical bs power to express things correctly the first time would life be worth living ? Would it save time or would it just make you bored out of your mind.

Like the question asked, if you could live forever, what if you could live your whole life in complete clarity ?

Would you learn quicker in life if all you had to ask was valid, or do you think people learn quicker with more pressure , and with a lack of expression, because they have more to prove and to say?

Would what a person be like if he/ she could explain every question that they ever had in the matter that they desired to immediately ? Would their demand for the question's quality most likely continue to have higher demands ? Would the demand for the quality of the question become less significant ?

Would some one who expressed their selves always clearly be a genius ?
Or would that person become an simpleton ?

Would you desire to always express yourself clearly and to be understood?

It's rather ironic then, that you ask a question about being able to communicate in a way which everyone can easily understand, and this the opening point.
From what I can understand, the question is " is being able to communicate clearly a good thing?"

I think it is, it solves problems of miscommunication. It would be less fun, but it isn't a huge amount of fun being sacrficed for the ablilty to get your ideas across without difficulty. It would make lanuages redundant, as everyone would be speaking in a way that everyone else can understand.

April 28, 2008, 2:16 PM

yes i would, I've had the worst stuttering problem and even when i don't, explaining anything is the biggest of chores.

April 28, 2008, 2:19 PM

The answer is in the form of another question. Didn't someone once say that?

If you already know so much,lf you did or were so clear or figured out, to the world you would be useless as a student, but well deserved as a teacher.

April 28, 2008, 4:10 PM

No. Sometimes miscommunication is a neccessary tool of deception. And if everyone understood each other completely, what would be the point of life?
I think it would make society very dull, just as having only one universal language makes societies dull. There will always be misunderstandings and differences. If everyone just said "I see your point completely, I see where you're coming from!" I think it would be counteractive. If everyone thought in the same way, life would be horribly tedious. Complete understanding isn't the way the world works.
Some people have a much greater comparative understanding of the world and its nature than others, true, but it isn't perfect.

April 28, 2008, 5:44 PM

It's not that clear communication is an ideal that people would like to have, but that it's impossible. It takes time for people to understand what you're trying to say because we're wired differently, and it's like trying to find an isomorphism for something you're trying to say--sometimes, the two "sets" of thoughts are similar enough that such an isomorphism is easily verified, but in other cases, it's not. In other words, some people are similar enough in thinking that they understand each other, and some people are different enough that it takes them forever to understand--if they kept trying. And that's actually the other problem. Because people have emotions, they may choose to deny what you say, or they may not be thinking properly enough to try to understand what you are saying. If you could make clear what it is you wanted to say, it doesn't mean people have to accept it. Geniuses have come and gone, leaving their marks on the world, and yet, we still don't understand all of what they tried to tell us, or we don't understand their significance. People call them lunatics because what they suggest is completely bizzarre, and possibly counter intuitive, even if the idea makes sense--the idea of non-Euclidean Geometry took awhile to accept, as did the concept of a helio centric solar system and spherical Earth. And religion has existed, yet there are people that understand how blind faith is--and yet, people may understand this is true, and yet deny it and ignore it because it's not something they want to hear. I am not saying, however, that every religious person thinks this way, but some of them do.

April 28, 2008, 6:28 PM

Well said, Angelus. Different levels and types of intelligence and thought mean different ways of communication. Different people think differently, and have different trains of thought, which are, in fact, advantageous.

April 29, 2008, 12:38 AM

I think the keyword here is "could". If I could choose to be crystal clear whenever I wanted, then of course I would want that. But if I was always clear, then I probably wouldn't want that for the aforemention reasons of deception.

But sometimes, I just really wish I knew the words to say when I wanted to express something. Lyyke love.

April 29, 2008, 3:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Korytco

If you could explain everything that you had to say in life without stumbling for the right words and if it all came across clear , would your life be better or worse? Would your life be more for filling or less for filling?

The irony here is absolutely delicious. I'm sure what spurred you to make this thread is the frustration you get out of nobody understanding you. But understand something, it's because your English is completely crazy. I don't think you paid attention when I told you this in your other thread, so I'll reiterate:

Please, for the love of god, proofread what you say. I'm not trying to be mean here, but your English is horrendous. The grammar, spelling and sentence structure is so out of whack that most of it is incomprehensible. That is why people have a hard time understanding you.

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Now, I am not saying if you were a genius, although you may become one if you could express all your thoughts clearly, I am asking if everything you wanted to ask or to say was clear to yourself and to others.

Would you become a genius or an idiot drone ?

Uh...I really don't see how one's ability (or inability) to get their thoughts across clearly would affect their being a genius or drone.

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People want the best of the better. They want more money more this, they can become spoiled, what if your thoughts and words were all clear in a "very wealthy" amount ?

That makes no sense whatsoever.

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Is it more or less to explore ?When you need to explore things more that you are not certain about, when you need to try to explain them more often, are you more or less intelligent ?

Okay, I think you're talking about...having to go research something if you don't know about a question someone asks? Is that it? If so, then that's no measure of intelligence. It's just ignorance, something which may or may not be of your own fault.

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When you are constantly trying to make new discoveries and exploring ways to express them, is that better or worse than immediately knowing how to discuss them ,or to express them ?

Uh...well, there's always a point in someone's life when they're discovering something for the first time, nobody starts off magically knowing something. As for expressing them...it just depends on how well-versed you are in the subject and how articulate you are.

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If you had some magical bs power to express things correctly the first time would life be worth living ? Would it save time or would it just make you bored out of your mind.

I don't see how it would make a difference, really.

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Like the question asked, if you could live forever, what if you could live your whole life in complete clarity ?

It would be depressing to live life in complete clarity. Besides, people tend to feel excited or accomplished when they learn something new. Living in complete clarity would take away the reward that comes with learning things.

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Would you learn quicker in life if all you had to ask was valid, or do you think people learn quicker with more pressure , and with a lack of expression, because they have more to prove and to say?

It really depends on the person. Some people do great learning/studying/etc under pressure, other people can't deal with it very well.

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Would what a person be like if he/ she could explain every question that they ever had in the matter that they desired to immediately ? Would their demand for the question's quality most likely continue to have higher demands ? Would the demand for the quality of the question become less significant ?

Again, that really just makes no sense. The quality of the question would increase, if anything, because it would be an understandable question.

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Would some one who expressed their selves always clearly be a genius ?
Or would that person become an simpleton ?

Would you desire to always express yourself clearly and to be understood?