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July 30, 2008, 5:23 AM
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I am afraid of crowds, I am terrified of crowds almost. I get really uncomfortable. I can not even eat dinner with my family. If someone is a round a corner I get extremely nervous just veering that corner .
Malls horrify me.
I feel like I am being watched .
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So basically you have agoraphobia. I'd say gradually expose yourself to places, but if family dinners freak you out, I don't think it can be as easily fixed as that.
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My mother says if I can not change myself alone, then I will see a professional. No, I do not want pills and therapy .
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There's one problem. You need to stop relying on your mother. I know it's nice to have someone to talk to about the problem, and you shouldn't stop, but relying on her advice won't help you in going out of your comfort space. And you may not want pills and therapy, but it sounds like your agoraphobia is pretty severe, so you might have to take them.
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Maybe I will try vitamins.
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Then you should see a doctor. They can pinpoint what's going wrong inside you. Once they tell you, you can always decline their medication and seek vitamins that will help that issue. But they aren't the cure-all, be-all, so don't put all your faith in them.
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July 30, 2008, 5:45 PM
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So basically you have agoraphobia. I'd say gradually expose yourself to places, but if family dinners freak you out, I don't think it can be as easily fixed as that.
There's one problem. You need to stop relying on your mother. I know it's nice to have someone to talk to about the problem, and you shouldn't stop, but relying on her advice won't help you in going out of your comfort space. And you may not want pills and therapy, but it sounds like your agoraphobia is pretty severe, so you might have to take them.
Then you should see a doctor. They can pinpoint what's going wrong inside you. Once they tell you, you can always decline their medication and seek vitamins that will help that issue. But they aren't the cure-all, be-all, so don't put all your faith in them.
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You actually understand, I had to drop back in everyone around me is being so stupid thinking they know it all. You are actually smart, I hate to admit that.
You know what the bloody hell you are talking about . For once in my life in a long time I know what I face, and I thank you for that.
I am still not wanting to go to a doctor though man, I mean come on. It is that bad, but I say it isn't you understand , right? I mean I know I can beat this, but at the same time I don't know. I think I can though.
Your diagnosis is brilliant it fits me to a T.
Thank you.
I could use more of your insights but at the same time I want to get far away from the internet . I do not think its healthy .
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July 31, 2008, 1:19 AM
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Huh, radio?
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Korytco, the way you word your sentences is somewhat odd, not bad for sure but just weird, I guess. I'm not sure if you're just a non-native English speaker or you get home schooled by your mum using text books from the 19th century.
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July 31, 2008, 1:47 AM
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You are actually smart, I hate to admit that.
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I am still not wanting to go to a doctor though man, I mean come on. It is that bad, but I say it isn't you understand , right? I mean I know I can beat this, but at the same time I don't know. I think I can though.
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Of course not, nobody likes going to the doctor for things, and I definitely don't trust therapists and psychologists, they're all crackpots. But like I said, you can go to a doctor just to find out the specifics of what's causing your condition, like chemical imbalances and things of that nature. They can't force you to take their medication, so you can just decline it. I think someone else in here mentioned exercise helping with certain things in the body, and herbal substances can help out with certain things too. So you may be able to fix it on your own gradually.
Don't place all your hopes in natural fixes though, they may not fix everything, or it may be a long process. You may have to rely on medicine, but even still, I personally would leave that as a last resort. Drugs can often have nasty side effects, or you can become dependent on them, and sometimes your body will just get so used to them that they become ineffective. A year back I tried three different types of meds to help me with my migraines, none of them were effective and one actually made my chronic depression worse.
No prob, on occasion I do feel helpful 
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I could use more of your insights but at the same time I want to get far away from the internet . I do not think its healthy .
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Lawl, that could certainly help. You don't necessarily have to stay away completely though, just gradually start cutting back and find other activities to do to replace your time. Trust me, I know what it's like to need the internets. Back in my emo days (which lasted a good 5 years), if I wasn't doing homework I was almost always on the internet because I needed to talk to people (I didn't hang out with anyone outside of school), I was dependent on it. It wasn't until I got over my depression when I realized I wasn't obligated to be online all day and talk to people, and I could find plenty of things to do on my own. It may take a while to ween yourself off the internet, but it can be done.
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August 1, 2008, 1:14 AM
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What should I do next? What is the next step to being more...normal ...mentally healthy ? I am still jumpy, insecure around large people . Deep voices, and dominant people that just get into your face all the time even if not to make a statement.
I have been going outside more, but gas prices are too high to drive anywhere in my family. So I walk, and ride my bike everywhere. I swim too and then I work out in my room.
That is good for me, and it feels good.
I can now more easily call people on a phone, I am no longer horrified .
My sense of direction is still off, and public sounds are still too much to take in without getting anxious .
My responsibility is improving , I am taking care of some college work but I am still under par to where I should be.
Women, does anyone know all about women ? Also can I do well in college and with women at the same time ? Even if a math and English class?
I need to fix myself or I am seeing a psych doctor. I am getting better, slowly but surely but I need game plans, you know plans of action.
I used to have like 10 girls phone numbers, I never called any of them...why? Because I was this person , look what I missed out on . You guys are alright so far, most of you are not insane forum users with no life. PArticually Rockman is helpful .
Rockman, how did you start living again after your emo-ness depression?
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August 1, 2008, 1:55 AM
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Huh, radio?
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Women, does anyone know all about women ? Also can I do well in college and with women at the same time ? Even if a math and English class?
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They are a strange specimen, and quite hostile certain times of the year. Just make sure you don't look them in the eyes or try to feed them. And if they get angry, contrary to popular belief, make a lot of noise by stamping your feet on the ground or something and it should scare them off.
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August 1, 2008, 2:55 AM
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LOL thanks
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August 3, 2008, 9:49 AM
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What should I do next? What is the next step to being more...normal ...mentally healthy ? I am still jumpy, insecure around large people . Deep voices, and dominant people that just get into your face all the time even if not to make a statement.
I have been going outside more, but gas prices are too high to drive anywhere in my family. So I walk, and ride my bike everywhere. I swim too and then I work out in my room.
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God, tell me about it, gas is fucking terrible. Riding your bike will do quite nicely, plenty of exercise and it saves a ton of money. As for people who get into your face, I don't think there's anything you can do about that, I can't stand people who stand 6 inches away from you and stare in your face when talking to you. It's horribly uncomfortable. All you can do really is try to avoid them, and keep stepping away from them 
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I can now more easily call people on a phone, I am no longer horrified .
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Took me FOREVER to get over my issues with talking on the phone.
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My responsibility is improving , I am taking care of some college work but I am still under par to where I should be.
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That I can't help you with, I'm not particularly responsible either. I put everything off until the night before it's due, I halfass most of my work, and I rarely study any more than 20 minutes before a class. It's amazing I pass my classes, really xD
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Women, does anyone know all about women ? Also can I do well in college and with women at the same time ? Even if a math and English class?
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Many women are presumptuous and self-centered. There have been plenty of occasions where I got to know girls in various classes, then as soon as I'd casually ask them if they wanted to get something to eat (and I ask in whiny ways too, like "fuck I'm hungry, I'm gonna go to Subway, wanna come?" so they won't get the wrong idea), but as soon as I try to do anything with them, I get stood up. There have been quite a few times when they played me as well, they'd be all friendly and nice when they needed help in class, but outside of class they'd ignore me.
It's not worth the trouble, and naturally, classes should take priority. I wouldn't worry about anything other than making friends and study partners. If you happen to find a girl who seems like she'd be a good gf candidate, then you're welcome to try, just don't spend too much effort or emotions on it, you might get burnt.
I need to fix myself or I am seeing a psych doctor. I am getting better, slowly but surely but I need game plans, you know plans of action.
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I used to have like 10 girls phone numbers, I never called any of them...why? Because I was this person , look what I missed out on .
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Pfft, you can gather up 10 numbers again, women are plentiful. Relationships really aren't worth the trouble, though.
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Rockman, how did you start living again after your emo-ness depression?
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Hrmm...well, I dropped out of college for a year and worked, that helped alot. I finally realized girls weren't worth the trouble, started paying attention to simple things like nature (there are alot of nice trails around here) and focusing on hobbies I enjoyed (vidya games). I also stepped back and looked at my life situation. Sure, it sucks living with my parents, but they make a good income, I have a place to stay, it's easy enough to get along with them, and I could be alot worse off.
Really, I think it's all about stepping back and looking at things in perspective. Look at all the things that are decent in your life, and compare it to someone who's living in the ghetto or w/e (I know, cliche). You should spend time trying to enjoy simple things, too. Once you're able to do that, it should be easier for you to be more relaxed, which would probably help with your aversion to crowds.
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They are a strange specimen, and quite hostile certain times of the year. Just make sure you don't look them in the eyes or try to feed them. And if they get angry, contrary to popular belief, make a lot of noise by stamping your feet on the ground or something and it should scare them off.
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I lol'd 
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August 3, 2008, 3:04 PM
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Thanks again .
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