How insane do you think you are? - Page 2

March 5, 2008, 7:34 PM

I think there is a fine line between sanity and insanity in this day and age. In early years, people had to behave in this or that way in order to be accepted by their society and everything was very strickt. If you didn't fit in, you were insane. So many geniuses were called insane, but they just thought 'out of the box'.

But nowadays, so many cultures are blended together, so many different believes. It doesn't matter that much what you think anymore. Geniusses, and scientists can make up the most craziest explanations about something and still be accepted or even have people to back him up. Is insanity growing then? Or is insanity being more accepted nowadays?

March 5, 2008, 7:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent Smith

I suppose the exact definition of "insane" is quite loose, so in a sense anyone can be insane for a period of time, if not indefinitely. Insanity seem to bare a greater un-spoken meaning which people assign to things, which Korytco says, that we might not necessarily be able to comprehend or easily understand.

So in conclusion, yes, I'd say I've been insane for a lot of my life. ;p

I would agree, and say that I am periodically as nutty as a fruit cake. What if I never realized that though, then based on my observation I would never be insane at all. After all a word's presence is only existent when applied, no?

What if I was a hermit and was as nutty as a fruit cake but no one else ever noticed it. I was never discovered, then would I live my whole life a sane man. OR insane people, the special types that stand out or frighten us ?

What if I was a nutty hermit and I was the only one who thought I was insane then would I be insane or does the majority opinion rule out your own personal indenitifaction of who you are in life and try to chose to be. Even when it is judging yourself.

I am insane, but you all say I am not. If I start to try to prove it to myself that I am insane am I self realized? Do I finally reach a connection, a spark ?

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Originally Posted by Angelus-Mortis

Define "insane".

If I am "insane" because I am a math geek, am eccentric and insensitive, and probably not neurotypical, I don't really care.

However, I can tell you I'm not a psychopath and don't go around killing people, nor would I kill people if my life depended on it.

Are they really insane though or just murders with a dirty name ? If any mind can be understood than any mind can be logically created and deserved.

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Originally Posted by Mjrn

I think there is a fine line between sanity and insanity in this day and age. In early years, people had to behave in this or that way in order to be accepted by their society and everything was very strickt. If you didn't fit in, you were insane. So many geniuses were called insane, but they just thought 'out of the box'.

But nowadays, so many cultures are blended together, so many different believes. It doesn't matter that much what you think anymore. Geniusses, and scientists can make up the most craziest explanations about something and still be accepted or even have people to back him up. Is insanity growing then? Or is insanity being more accepted nowadays?

But can one choose to be insane?

March 5, 2008, 7:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelus-Mortis

If I am "insane" because I am a math geek, am eccentric and insensitive, and probably not neurotypical, I don't really care.

Being a "geek" wouldn't allow people to identify you as someone not in a sound state of mind; perhaps a little obsessive, but it's not odd for someone to thoroughly enjoy engaging in a subject.

March 5, 2008, 7:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent Smith

Being a "geek" wouldn't allow people to identify you as someone not in a sound state of mind; perhaps a little obsessive, but it's not odd for someone to like a certain subject.

Not when if he choses to act in that matter . If compulsive , anything compulsive can be eventually viewed as insane. Why though because it is not understood, the differences are feared because you know you will fail to understand the differences and that person.

Compulsive is not normal its a personal decision that stands out to others to be judgmental .

Insensitive , there is a distant word .

Insensitive is a dangerous word .

March 5, 2008, 7:41 PM

And this certain subject is highly abstract, and in some cases, considered unreal.

I study a subject, which, by certain people, could not accept the fact that imaginary numbers are workable, and that non-Euclidean geometry disproves the fifth postulate of Euclidean geometry, which everyone is most familiar with. In other words, the geometry of this universe that we live in now might not be the one everyone is most familiar with, and you may think me a nut for believing that.

And that's probably why people thought Einstein and other geniuses either understood something on a really high level that none of us could grasp or they were insane.

But I did ask for a more precise definition of "insane" that we could work with.

March 5, 2008, 7:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelus-Mortis

And this certain subject is highly abstract, and in some cases, considered unreal.

I study a subject, which, by certain people, could not accept the fact that imaginary numbers are workable, and that non-Euclidean geometry disproves the fifth postulate of Euclidean geometry, which everyone is most familiar with. In other words, the geometry of this universe that we live in now might not be the one everyone is most familiar with, and you may think me a nut for believing that.

And that's probably why people thought Einstein and other geniuses either understood something on a really high level that none of us could grasp or they were insane.

But I did ask for a more precise definition of "insane" that we could work with.

No, this is for everyone. Everyone would not agree on a defintion of insane. Nor does anyone review the defintion often , but the word is used all the time. What does it mean to you , and others is not the question, if it can be justified is perhaps.

March 5, 2008, 7:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelus-Mortis

And that's probably why people thought Einstein and other geniuses either understood something on a really high level that none of us could grasp or they were insane.

Yeah that's what I mean. They weren't insane. There were unaccepted. But in this society, I think it's easier to be accepted.

March 5, 2008, 7:47 PM

As I said in a previous post, the word is used far too loosely, and in far too numerous occasions for any one definition to be the 'real' one.

Though dictionary.com is telling me...

1. not sane; not of sound mind; mentally deranged.
2. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of a person who is mentally deranged: insane actions; an insane asylum.
3. utterly senseless: an insane plan.

March 5, 2008, 7:47 PM

There were others too, like Lobatchevsky, who came up with the idea of non-Euclidean geometry, as well as Bolyai and Gauss (who was too wise and said nothing about it at all because he knew people wouldn't accept it). When it was introduced, people thought it was ridiculous.

Although most of that was because they believed Kant's idea of mathematics.

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Originally Posted by Agent Smith

As I said in a previous post, the word is used far too loosely, and in far too numerous occasions for any one definition to be the 'real' one.

Though dictionary.com is telling me...

1. not sane; not of sound mind; mentally deranged.
2. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of a person who is mentally deranged: insane actions; an insane asylum.
3. utterly senseless: an insane plan.

So does that mean illogical or irrational?

March 5, 2008, 7:48 PM