Alright, first of all, don't generalize. Most teenagers who are sexually active do not get pregnant. A large portion of the women I know had sex before they were twenty years old and nearly all of them have never been pregnant. If most sexually active teenagers became pregnant, then we would have a much greater teen pregnancy problem.

Furthermore, I don't think you can argue that FGM is justified because it stops young women from getting pregnant. There are other things that are far less dangerous and damaging that can stop young women from getting pregnant; masturbation, contraceptives, abstinence.

It's also hard to generalize about FGM/C. Depending on the country and ethnic group different forms are used. Sometimes only the tip of the clitoris is removed, in other places, the clitoris and labia are removed and the entire area is sewn together. Depending on the procedure and the woman, there are different reports on how much the women enjoy sex when the procedure has been done to them. Yet, this could have to do with the woman's personality (lying to herself or convincing herself otherwise) how she is built (some women have an easier time orgasming from vaginal sex while other women can only orgasm from clitoral stimulation) and how good of a lover she has (for example, if her husband/lover is good at foreplay she may still enjoy that or enjoy the closeness to him during intercourse even if she technically can't physically feel anything).

Yet, for the most part, women report less sexual enjoyment if they have any forms of the procedure than women who have not had it. It is also interesting to note that in nearly every place that FGM is practiced, male circumcision is also practiced.

I understand the argument that in some places FGM like male circumcision is considered a right of passage into adulthood. People in other countries might cringe at how some American woman go through excruciating pain for larger breasts or how painful braces can be in order to get perfect teeth. Because of this, I don't think you can outlaw it. Yet because of the mental and physical health risks and what FGM can symbolize (complete male control of women's sexuality) I do think we have the right to force other areas of the world to make in an option but not a requirement.

We should not attempt to end the practice through force, but instead through education programs. We should attempt to get information to young women in those areas about the risks of the procedure and what they could possibly lose without exaggerating and show them what the evidence suggests. To be fair, young men in the areas where FGM is carried out should also be educated about circumcision and its possible advantages and disadvantages. By acknowledging both male and female circumsion in the education programs it cannot be said that we are favoring one gender over another or that we are trying to undermine their culture.

A lot of times in certain countries where odd medical practices are carried out it's not out of any evil intent, but rather tradition and false scientific premises that if the procedure is not done, bad things will happen

Forcing the practice to end may just cause more bitterness towards the west and may cause the practice to go underground and become more dangerous than it is now.

It should certainly be stopped. Why go to great lengths to help AIDS in Africa only to have people die of this?

Also, at their belief: It's in the human genome that people are made to spread. By removing that aspect, they are preserving something other than honor.

I think you missunderstood my post, and even more so got insulted by it.

I said alot of girls who are sexually active at a young age get pregnant, I didn't say all of them did. Thats not generalizing at all, and I fail to see how you came to that assumption. I wasn't trying to portray girls who have sex early as sluts, which I think you feel I did.


I was playing devils advocate, and trying to present a fair argument for both sides. Quit being so close-minded.

Women who undergo FGM enjoy sex less, not a little bet less, ALOT less. Your scenarios are fair, but hey the woman is still enjoying herself.

I said that in my post

Nobody forces women to get larger breasts, they get them because they feel insecure. I personally think a woman large or small breasted is beautiful. And...their tradition is there tradition, although I do think FGM is disgusting.

Educating people about thes ekind of things doesnt always work. In 8th grade or high school we take sex-ed classes, and/or a life management class. Neither have stopped kids from having sex, or using drugs. Although im sure its stopped a few.

I agree, I'm against FGM, but who am I say its wrong in general because I think so. I thought your response was an angry rant at first, but after reading further I can see it wasnt :)

- Kuja

Judaism has accepted Male Circumcision, since the time of Abraham. I agree with Placebo, how can you say they are being forced to do it? Because you think its wrong?

I'm not sure which religion your specifically reffering to, but it sounds like its Islam. 15% of Muslims are Shiite Muslims aka the Crazy ones, and the other 85% are Sunni Muslims aka the Sane ones. Dont forget God made Abraham circumcise himself, and his son. Its not up to you to say what god does and doesnt want.

In response to your comment Gabranth, yes its true, although theres studies being done to contradict what your saying. Whether its a cover-up or The damn truth is unknown to me.

- Kuja