Deportation For Illegal Aliens Who Are Parents of U.S Citizen Minors

June 7, 2008, 9:28 PM

This is quite a touchy subject, so please remember not to post any offending contents and try to simply stick to the topic at hand.

As some of you may know, I'm a teacher at a daycare center and earlier this week, I found out that one of my kid's dad was deported back to El Salvador. Apparently, the story goes that they gave him two weeks to turn himself in, but he never did, so they came after him instead. He married an American woman, and had two little girls born on U.S soil.

Anyway, usually the dad picks her daughters up, and the little girl in my class (who's only 2) heard the other kids blabbering about their "daddies coming to pick [them] up." So she turned to me and asked, "My daddy come pick me up?" And...I just felt so sad that she might not see her dad for a long time and that the family is now torn apart.

So I told her, "Your daddy will come see you as soon as he can, honey", which I'm sure he'll try to, but I doubt he would be successful. She has a big sister who's 4 or 5, and she's quite the troublemaker, and I heard that a teacher had scolded her for getting into trouble and told her she would talk to her dad (the teacher didn't know about her dad being deported yet), and the little girl smirked, "You caaaan't. My daddy's out of town." These kids don't have a clue what had happened and it just breaks my heart to see a family being torn apart.

Now, the question stands. Should illegal immigrants be deported back to their country if they have family (who are citizens of the U.S) to take care of here in the U.S...?

I'm kind of torn here, to be honest. I mean, I know that in the legal aspect, yes it would be fair for the deportation. However, to see families torn apart would probably be the deciding factor for me to say that I think they should make an exception, depending on the situation, especially if minor U.S citizens are involved. I'm still not too sure about the subject though - that's just what I currently feel at the moment due to the little girls at my daycare center. But I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on the matter.

June 7, 2008, 10:00 PM

If the guy is genuinely trying to get legal citizenship, then I don't really have an issue with it. He never turned himself in, which leaves me thinking - did he really care about what he was doing? Or was he genuinely scared of what might happen to him?

If the people pose a threat to society, don't aim to do things legally, then yeah, deport them - even if they have families. I don't mean to be heartless, but countries have laws, and you have to respect them.

June 7, 2008, 10:50 PM

I thought you could stay if you married someone who was born in the US? That's what happens in 'a view from the bridge' by Arthur Miller.
I'm assuming that he works?
Therefore, he is doing a job and contributing to the economy. Also they are breaking up a family, I don't see that there is anything to gain from deporting this guy.
So it seems stupid to me.

June 8, 2008, 7:09 AM

Imo the guy should be allowed to stay, it's going to screw up his family. I actually didn't think it was legal to deport them if they have a family here, though :/

Now deportation in general...I have mixed feelings. I don't want people coming here illegally, mooching off welfare and not paying taxes, etc. But if someone comes over, works and actually makes an effort to learn our language and acclimate to society and pursues being a legal citizen, I don't really have a problem.

A great example of an illegal alien becoming a useful member of society is Dr. Quinones-Hinojosa. He hopped the fence when he was 19, worked terrible wages at farms, eventually became a legal citizen, went to community college...and now he's a world-renowned brain surgeon.

So really...unless someone is a threat (like JR said) and is in a gang or sells drugs or something, or if they just sit around leeching off our money...leave 'em be. It's not like us well-off folks want to pick crops in a field or build giant 400 grand houses

June 8, 2008, 11:51 AM

Hmm.

He might be an illegal immigrant, but he has a family in the USA. To tear someone away from that is inhumane and highly cruel to both the man and his family.
There should definitely be laws protecting against that, if there is any justice in the world.

However, there is also the problem of illegal immigrants getting married and having children just so they can stay, should such laws be in place.

June 8, 2008, 3:38 PM

Actually, you can still be deported even if you are married to a U.S citizen - that is, if you have not filled out the proper paperwork in order to gain legal status here. Being married to a U.S citizen just makes it easier to get citizenship here, but if you don't do the required necessities, then it's no good at all. =/ I don't know what the deal with the guy was, but I heard he did have a job, so...I'm not sure what will happen to him. He may have been genuinely scared of being caught and didn't know how to approach the proper way of becoming a legal citizen. It's really hard to say.

But yeah, the deportation subject is a tough case for many people. Normally immigration attorneys are needed just to answer tough questions for different cases and help people who wants to become a U.S citizen.

June 12, 2008, 6:57 PM

I think he should be allowed to stay within the country provided that he complete the citizenship requirements (whatever they may be). I'm not sure why he'd risk deportation by not completing them earlier, but whatever.

Tearing families apart like that just doesn't seem right. Hopefully his wife will be able to support the children on her own income until the problem is resolved...somehow.

July 3, 2008, 4:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitsuki

This is quite a touchy subject, so please remember not to post any offending contents and try to simply stick to the topic at hand.

As some of you may know, I'm a teacher at a daycare center and earlier this week, I found out that one of my kid's dad was deported back to El Salvador. Apparently, the story goes that they gave him two weeks to turn himself in, but he never did, so they came after him instead. He married an American woman, and had two little girls born on U.S soil.

Anyway, usually the dad picks her daughters up, and the little girl in my class (who's only 2) heard the other kids blabbering about their "daddies coming to pick [them] up." So she turned to me and asked, "My daddy come pick me up?" And...I just felt so sad that she might not see her dad for a long time and that the family is now torn apart.

So I told her, "Your daddy will come see you as soon as he can, honey", which I'm sure he'll try to, but I doubt he would be successful. She has a big sister who's 4 or 5, and she's quite the troublemaker, and I heard that a teacher had scolded her for getting into trouble and told her she would talk to her dad (the teacher didn't know about her dad being deported yet), and the little girl smirked, "You caaaan't. My daddy's out of town." These kids don't have a clue what had happened and it just breaks my heart to see a family being torn apart.

Now, the question stands. Should illegal immigrants be deported back to their country if they have family (who are citizens of the U.S) to take care of here in the U.S...?

I'm kind of torn here, to be honest. I mean, I know that in the legal aspect, yes it would be fair for the deportation. However, to see families torn apart would probably be the deciding factor for me to say that I think they should make an exception, depending on the situation, especially if minor U.S citizens are involved. I'm still not too sure about the subject though - that's just what I currently feel at the moment due to the little girls at my daycare center. But I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on the matter.

I agree, this is a touchy subject, and its sad to talk about, but my answer is that the illegal immigrant should be deported, after all he/she is breaking the law, and that isn't fair to those who came here legally, plus if such a exception was passed, people who are illegal immigrants might try to make other exceptions so that they can stay.

While I agree its very sad, as I'm in favor of a nucleur family, the law is the law.

Being hispanic myself I know(sort of) what its like, I used to know a person from the Dominican Republic, he came to the U.S on a visa, but didnt return to the Dominican Republic, he spoke little english, but blended in with the cubans in Miami. He married a cuban lady, and they had a son, however it was discovered he was here illegally and was sent back. However he filed for citizenship, and just recently got it. He's with his family now, and their very happy =).

-Kuja

July 3, 2008, 5:02 AM

I think he should be able to stay or have the rights to speak for himself.I mean this is a free country and yet they are forcing him to leave?That does not sound fair!American or not he shouldnt be forced to go back to his country.I think that shouldnt be allowed honestly thats just sad and terrible forcing someone to go back to where they came from.Feel bad for that poor girl and his wife. T_T