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April 2, 2008, 2:40 PM
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Wow, this shouldn't be in Costa de Sol. This seems more like a Shinra Building thread :p But I digress. I'm late, but I'm gonna jump in!
I honestly hate people attacking America. I'm not super patriotic or anything, but I really do love America. I've been lucky enough to see other countries, and I like America the most in terms of attitudes and living style (call me biased). I'm not saying America is perfect-- it certainly isn't-- but to me, it's one of the better countries. Not everyone in America is a stupid, obese hick who eats McDonalds all the time. For a while, I wanted to pretend I wasn't American. But you know, screw that. There's nothing wrong with being American. There's only one thing about Europe that I'm really envious of: the history! Europe has such great history and (if they weren't destroyed in wars) great historical sights. America doesn't really have that. I wish we did!
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April 3, 2008, 12:13 AM
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Haha, that movie could fuel countless debates. Quite the brilliant movie, really. It's a rather applicable quote to this, too. Seems that texbooks really do try to correct history to keep from offending others, or to make them feel better about being included. Although, I suppose history will always be told that way. People are bound to put their spin on things, or leave things out.
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Correcting history is basically lying, and lying is basically inviting more corruption to our already flawed government. Oh well, we work our best with what we have, so we can't complain all day. If what we only do is complain about how bad the situation is, we would be eternally stuck in a very unproductive behavior. Too bad some people never learn 
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I've always thought it quite ironic that blacks always fought during the civil rights against things like segregation...and yet, today they segregate themselves of their own free will. Practically anywhere you go, whether it's a classroom or a restaurant, the blacks cluster together.
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Yes, which ends up resulting in a more divided country.
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Reminds me of Hitler kinda
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Wow, this shouldn't be in Costa de Sol. This seems more like a Shinra Building thread :p But I digress. I'm late, but I'm gonna jump in!
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The more, the merrier
Yes, I agree, this thread should be in the Shinra Building. We kind of made this thread a very serious and interesting Debate.
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I honestly hate people attacking America. I'm not super patriotic or anything, but I really do love America. I've been lucky enough to see other countries, and I like America the most in terms of attitudes and living style (call me biased). I'm not saying America is perfect-- it certainly isn't-- but to me, it's one of the better countries.
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No country is perfect, but we live with what we have. Also America isn't that bad. There are a few peaceful areas in which I could relax all day. The problem is people telling the wrong side of the story and others no wanting to listen to our version.
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Not everyone in America is a stupid, obese hick who eats McDonalds all the time.
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People tend to make stereotypes. We should get used to it.
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For a while, I wanted to pretend I wasn't American.
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While your mind may wanted to deny it, your heart would probably end up doing the opposite. There's nothing wrong feeling proud of the place you were born. For example, I am Puertorrican, and I don't give a fuck what others think about it. Besides, I have spring/summer like years almost the whole year. Cold days are relaxing, not too cold, and are fine days to rest.
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But you know, screw that. There's nothing wrong with being American. There's only one thing about Europe that I'm really envious of: the history! Europe has such great history and (if they weren't destroyed in wars) great historical sights. America doesn't really have that. I wish we did!
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There's nothing to envy aside from a few interesting historical events, but America sure have its own history and no one should be considered better nor superior to the other. The Native Americans had (or still have) a very interesting culture, and advanced to their current time. America is not USA alone, but the whole North and South parts of the continent, meaning that we have Aztecs, Caribbean Indians, Pirates, Pyramids, Forests, all sorts of rare fauna and flora, beautiful places, we have all sorts of advanced civilizations that left their mark in history, just as Europeans did.
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April 3, 2008, 12:21 AM
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hah thats funny. i dont live in an amish community but theyre everywhere around here. im in lancaster, pa
rofl i have so many angry rants i could go on in this thread
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You only live a few miles away from me. Nifty.
Those amish can be a nuisance. Their damn horses crappin' all over the streets. I got caught behind a horse n' buggy a few days ago. Fortunately, I rarely encounter 'em.
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April 3, 2008, 12:30 AM
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I too, am now jumping in...
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3. All this political correctness and uber sensitivity makes me sick. OH NOES! Be careful you don't make a race joke or call someone overweight, you might offend them and hurt their feelings, and lord knows thats the worst crime you can commit! Seriously, people tread on eggshells because they're afraid they might hurt some little pussy's feelings. What the hell happened to growing a pair and not letting it bother you? And the entire hypocrisy of the racial thing drives me insane. It's perfectly acceptable for a Jew or black or Mexican or homosexual to make fun of other races or demographics, but when a white person makes a simple joke, they're immediately branded as a racist and will likely get their ass beat. Buncha damned hypocrites use it as a leverage point, where else would they get their lawsuits?
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OK, I'll admit it, political correctness grates on my nerves.
Its fine for Any other race/religion etc. to make fun of white people, but can white people make fun of them?
NO!
I'm not saying we should, words can hurt but it doesn't seem fair to me...
All that annoying political correctness is over the top too, "Vertically challenged", "horizontally challenged", "visually challenged", "intellectually challenged"...
As if calling someone challenged isnt offensive anyway...
The children-related protection shit is the worst imo.
It's gotten so out of hand, I remember back when I was little and even then, some 15 years ago, we were doing stuff that kids these days can't dream of because of this-or-that law or this-or-that overprotective mega-bitch (Thank you Drop Dead Fred) but now, so much of the good stuff has been banned, edited or simply fucking removed!
Yes, I realise that 15 years wasn't that long ago, so I can hardly talk about the "good old days" and some such, but even then we were allowed to have fun!
I remember getting a BB Gun for my sixth birthday, and going out with my dad and shooting him.
Yes, shooting my dad, with a BB Gun...
I still own that BB Gun, but if I showed it to a kid these days they'd only know it off of the incessant amount of television they watch...
A school over here in Australia, decided to ban card games as "they got the children too riled up"
All card games are banned.
Trading cards, actual cards, football cards etc.
ALL GONE!
This school tried to ban their (wait for it) slides.
Because the "likelihood of a child falling off a (1-2m high) slide and breaking a bone is a high chance these days"
The school ended up putting rails on the side of the slide.
Damn it, this stuff annoys me
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April 4, 2008, 12:15 PM
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What's with modern "music"? The quality and depth of most mainstream music seems to have declined. You no longer get so many original sounding bands, with a unique, distinctive sound, such as AC-DC and Black Sabbath. But loads of clones such as the "Kaiser Chiefs" and "Artic Monkeys"... not to mention the huge amount of pop and rap/hip-hop singers. Alot of it is not good, quality music, it's crap. And yes, this is coming from a seventeen year-old. I see most recent "chart" music as being simply resynthesised crap with no original lyrics. Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right places, but the day of rock and metal gods is mostly gone for now. All you see in the HMV top ten is "indie" rock; sameish, annoying pop; and rap and hip hop which makes your ears bleed. The good bands, such as Arch Enemy, are far and few between now, and hardly ever get into the top ten.
Screw you, modern "music"!
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April 4, 2008, 4:05 PM
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Moved to ShinRa Building.
*rant*
What I don't understand is... Why are we censoring so much from kids? Sure censoring sex, drugs, violence is fine at a very young age, but kids need to be exposed to this to some degree. Once they start to grow up, they might do rebellious thing such as doing drugs, have sex, and possibly do violent things. (I'm not saying ALL teens but I've seen it happen around here quite often.)
This is a pretty common example... A girl grows up in a catholic family. Her parents barely touch the topic of sex but they strongly advise her to not have sex until she is 21 or married. Girl grows up and goes to college... Guess what? She's a huge slut. My boyfriend lived in a souther catholic community. Some of the girls he went to school with grew up like this, with a strict catholic family. Yes, they're sluts in college now. :/ (No even catholic, could be just strict parents.)
Also the whole mother day card in England is just stupid. Kids who have no mom can write to a card to a close female. Just doing this to kids makes will make them feel worse in the future. They're going to have a harder time dealing with no mother. God no wonder why we emo is such a trend.
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April 4, 2008, 7:01 PM
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I remember getting a BB Gun for my sixth birthday, and going out with my dad and shooting him.
Yes, shooting my dad, with a BB Gun...
I still own that BB Gun, but if I showed it to a kid these days they'd only know it off of the incessant amount of television they watch...
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You'll shoot your eye out, kid! 
*had to insert the movie reference*
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A school over here in Australia, decided to ban card games as "they got the children too riled up"
All card games are banned.
Trading cards, actual cards, football cards etc.
ALL GONE!
This school tried to ban their (wait for it) slides.
Because the "likelihood of a child falling off a (1-2m high) slide and breaking a bone is a high chance these days"
The school ended up putting rails on the side of the slide.
Damn it, this stuff annoys me
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That...is ridiculous. Then again I frequently hear of things like dodgeball and other harmless games being banhammered because of the "danger", and sometimes P.E. activities being banned just because if someone loses it'll hurt their precious self esteem.
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What's with modern "music"? The quality and depth of most mainstream music seems to have declined. You no longer get so many original sounding bands, with a unique, distinctive sound, such as AC-DC and Black Sabbath. But loads of clones such as the "Kaiser Chiefs" and "Artic Monkeys"... not to mention the huge amount of pop and rap/hip-hop singers. Alot of it is not good, quality music, it's crap. And yes, this is coming from a seventeen year-old. I see most recent "chart" music as being simply resynthesised crap with no original lyrics. Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right places, but the day of rock and metal gods is mostly gone for now. All you see in the HMV top ten is "indie" rock; sameish, annoying pop; and rap and hip hop which makes your ears bleed. The good bands, such as Arch Enemy, are far and few between now, and hardly ever get into the top ten.
Screw you, modern "music"!
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Thus why I listen to alot of 80's music There are still some great current bands today...only problem is they're few and far between. Most of the pop music today is shallow and pedantic *Family Guy reference for the hell of it* and either bawws about some girl the singer can't get over or how some dude's bitches and hoes need to get out the way.
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Moved to ShinRa Building.
*rant*
What I don't understand is... Why are we censoring so much from kids? Sure censoring sex, drugs, violence is fine at a very young age, but kids need to be exposed to this to some degree. Once they start to grow up, they might do rebellious thing such as doing drugs, have sex, and possibly do violent things. (I'm not saying ALL teens but I've seen it happen around here quite often.)
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WE HAS TO PROTECT THEIR SENSITIVE MINDS 
I've always found it humorous that parents try to protect elementary age kids from things like cursing...or hell, on the internets in message boards I think people try to fool themselves into thinking their child isn't being exposed to any of that, but for fuck's sake, any child in the public school system is going to learn to curse and much more in their early years. A couple weeks ago my half-sister and my youngest nephew, Tyler, were here for the weekend. Around his mom and my parents he won't cuss, but when he was back in my room watching my play Half-Life 2, he was saying everything from "damn" to "fuck." He's only 8. And for that matter, why DO people freak out about curse words so much anyway? I've never understood it. They're only words, and they're much less taboo today then they were 30 years ago. They're pretty much common place now.
So yeah, people need to get a little more realistic. Or how people will act like violent videogames are so terrible and kids shouldn't be exposed to them. Um, well guess wut? They're gonna see things just as bad, if not worse on TV. Not that I'm condoning a little kid playing GTA, it's bad enough they see that stuff and they don't need to play it. But people need to realize not everything is flowers and sunshine.
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April 5, 2008, 5:52 AM
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Après moi, le déluge
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What's with modern "music"? The quality and depth of most mainstream music seems to have declined. You no longer get so many original sounding bands, with a unique, distinctive sound, such as AC-DC and Black Sabbath. But loads of clones such as the "Kaiser Chiefs" and "Artic Monkeys"... not to mention the huge amount of pop and rap/hip-hop singers. Alot of it is not good, quality music, it's crap. And yes, this is coming from a seventeen year-old. I see most recent "chart" music as being simply resynthesised crap with no original lyrics. Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right places, but the day of rock and metal gods is mostly gone for now. All you see in the HMV top ten is "indie" rock; sameish, annoying pop; and rap and hip hop which makes your ears bleed. The good bands, such as Arch Enemy, are far and few between now, and hardly ever get into the top ten.
Screw you, modern "music"!
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First of all, arctic monkeys are win and so are muse and placebo and many others, if you dont like indie/alternative music then that's your bad.
and lol at ACDC, i like ACDC a lot, but original is one thing they arent, their songs sound the same.
and for sabbath, they are nowhere as good as zep.
i agree with pop music, which i hate and most rap, ffs no one wants to hear about your hoes.
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This is a pretty common example... A girl grows up in a catholic family. Her parents barely touch the topic of sex but they strongly advise her to not have sex until she is 21 or married. Girl grows up and goes to college... Guess what? She's a huge slut
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i wish i new more catholic girls, oh well
like VR said, parents cant protect their children from the world forever, and if they were to succeed, they would have fucked up their child. The world isnt a nice place, it doesnt want you to have a nice time, so its not helping teaching your children that it is. Sure sex drugs and violence are bad when you're twelve, but when people are 15+ they know all about sex and drugs, a lot of them have no doubt had sex and/or drugs.
i was listening to a song the other day and they beeped out words like suicide and gun, its just stupid imo
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