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Old March 26, 2008, 11:04 PM   #21
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There is another side to every story, there was a security guard a countdown that made me empty my pockets everytime i went there. Im not blaming you, but it does happen.
Oh yeah, I know. There are others out there who does it on purpose for pure torture, but in my case, the guy was snickering at me, almost as if he was in it for enjoyment purposes or just to be a total jackass. I had cameras on me and it was my responsibility to do what I had to do, simple as that.
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God this topic is fun I'm glad it hasn't turned into a shitstorm either.

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The example Mitsuki and VR showed us it's just minorities abusing their own damn race. I have another example of this.

My boyfriend's aunt got divorced and she has three kids she needs to take care of. By the way, she lives in Texas and west Texas has a high Mexican population. She goes over to the welfare office to ask if she can get WIC for her kids. Note - She has no job right now, and three kids. The woman at the desk was, well, Mexican. She said: "No, your kids look too healthy." She argued with them and wouldn't give her any benefits. Apparently she was qualified for WIC.

I'll come back to this later.
Ugh, WIC checks are fucking evil...well, when you're a cashier they are, anyway. But I has even better examples. I'll just summarize them and link you guys to the articles.

In Memphis, TN, three stagehands were fired from the theatre or w/e because some stupid African American complained about looped knots used to raise the curtain up. The dumb *insert N word* said they looked like nooses.

And here's another story I dug up from a Missouri paper. Two band members were suspended for 10 days from school because they were trying to figure out the best way to tie their equipment to a truck, and one of them suggested a noose. Some black kid then went and told the band director that he felt "threatened" simply because they used to the word noose, they didn't even USE the goddamn noose.

This is what I'm talking about. Those two instances were in NO way, shape or form racist, yet simply because they can they blacks decided to get people in trouble. I also recall another story from Memphis from last year involving a noose, but I can't find the article online. Some scout was out in his front lawn practicing different types of knots and one happened to be a noose. Some random black guy is walking down the sidewalk, sees the noose and decides to sue for racial harassment. I don't know what the outcome was, but I'm sure he lost.

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So then the only war mongering idiot in America is Cheney--is that what you're saying?
Well Cheney is definitely one of them, Rumsfeld was another big one. Alot of it also comes from private contractors who profit alot from the war, as well as weapons manufacturers.

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Someone has recently reminded me of the 17-23% of people in America who still don't know where their country is on the world map, and that they still have the highest gun murder rate compared to other countries. I can't say having Bush for a president is exactly a dream either, and it's easy to judge any country by the person that controls it, and there are particular things about America that don't sound so great, but I never said it was the worst country ever. There are probably good things and bad things about it, but regardless of whatever you think of it, you have to accept America for the good and the bad. But how you take the "good" and the "bad" is entirely up to interpretation.
Oh good lord, the public education here is horrid, it was crummy before but Bush just destroyed it with his stupid No Child Left Behind act. That thing screwed over everyone, the schools, the teachers, the students. Yeah, there's alot of stuff here that's FAR from perfect. But all things considered, I'd damn sure rather live here than alot of other countries. And people have alot of opportunities here, too. One guy in my speech class is a *legal* Mexican immigrant, he's been in America for 10 years and he's wants to major in something business related. If he were still in Mexico he probably wouldn't get that chance.
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Oh god, a lot of 'politically correctness' is just plain pathetic. Like the banning of 'Baa baa black sheep' for instance. The sheep is BLACK, that is it's colour. Not white, not blue or orange or fucking heliotrope, it is BLACK, hence the lyrics. It's about as ridiculous as changing pianos so that there are equal numbers of ebony and ivory keys, seriously, I would not be surprised with shit like this going on. A lot of white people are too damn scared of being accused as racist so they have to over-compensate for this with insane acts like that. To quote... somebody who's name I forgot ><, 'Oh no, I'm not racist! >_> Here, sleep with my sister! See, I'm not racist!! >_>'

I aso find it ridiculous that in some schools/work places people are banned from expressing their religion, even just wearing a cross, incase other religions 'get offended'. Are you KIDDING me!? What about when these other religions are walking down the street, and pass a church? Should that church be hidden under a tent so that nobody's feelings get hurt!? If some people really DO get offended by somebody wearing a cross then I would imagine that they would not take kindly to all of these churches lying around. What do you expect though, when you go to a country where the main religion is Christianity then you should be prepared for that. By banning crosses and the likes, people are being hidden from these things as opposed to learning to value and respect other people's opinions.


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Oh I know they can think whatever they want, it just gets so tiresome seeing so much anti-American sentiment, especially in my own damn country. If you don't like Bush or the government, thats fine. I'll admit, most of our government is pretty corrupt, and I don't like it. But all these stupid faggy teens (especially the wapanese and hippies) whine about how our country just sucks balls and that they wish they lived in some other country and completely idolize every other country. Hate to break it to ya, but EVERY country is going to have its issues. It's that kind of uninformed, blatant hatred that pisses me off.
I agree, I wonder how Americans kind off want to be respected, if some of them admit hating their own country. What happened to patriotism and being proud of the land you were born? People tend to forget it. Not a single government in the world is uncorrupted, they all do their "stuff" and always work their best to make their life (not ours), better. Besides, Bush was elected by the people, so they should deal with it for making the wrong choice.

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Respect is one thing, but people are too damn touchy and use the dumbest reasons to file for lawsuits and things of that nature. Like what about the term "retarded""? Perfectly legitimate word, it's been used for a long time. But suddenly that word has been deemed offensive and we have to say "special" or "challenged" and crap like that. Hell, even the Black Eyed Peas had to change their lyrics from "lets get retarded in here" to "lets get it started in here" on their song Lets Get Retarded (AKA Let's Get It Started) for the radio to play the song and for Walmart to even sell the album. Are they using the word retarded to insult mentally retarded people? No. But some pissed off mother of a retarded kid probably freaked out when she heard those lyrics and complained.
Now that's quite excessive. I mean, what happened to the Freedom of Speech? People are free to say whatever they want, and I concur that limiting it it's kind of against our rights. Again, the world is full of complainers so we have to deal with it.


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And I can't even make sense out of this, but in colleges it's now taboo to call classes "remedial." So my 0850 math course isn't remedial now, it's "developmental." Like wtf? Who decided "remedial" was offensive? I don't care what it's called, whenever people ask me what math I'm in I friggin tell them I'm in retard math. I could care less. Respect is fine and dandy, but people take things WAY to far and just don't know how to deal with stuff anymore. Before you know it someone will think up a way to be offended at the word "toast."
And I would lol on that. Seriously. Some people are kind of taking these too far and making our, already screwed world, more screwed and far worse, more boring.

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You're misinterpreting my post. I don't think people should be given free reign to go around saying spiteful things. What I mean is that you have to check your ass before you even jokingly say something that has the possibility of being offensive. There are so many extreme restrictions on words.
Oh, my apologies then, I did misunderstood your point. Now I see it now.

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You can't call someone fat even if you're not saying it in a mean way, you have to say overweight or other cuter sounding words.
That's just saying the same insult with words appropriate to their judgment. You are still calling that person fat. It's a reality, so they have to deal with it. It is not that they don't already know it. Again, it depends on how the comment is done and with what intention.

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And I concur with you again, that's just And it just annoys the piss out of me that minorities are allowed to use racial terms, even in jest, but whites aren't. They treat us like the fucking devil.
Due to the fact that some retards (erm...might offend someone ), well more correctly said, "misguided and selfish" people were quite racist some years ago. The world was indeed racist, slavery was common, so it's not your fault, or my fault, or anyone's fault.

So treating Caucasians like devils is kind of racist too, don't you agree?

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And speaking of minorities...and I the only one who thinks it's completely backwards that the minorities have all the leverage in politics and things of that nature? Wtf happened to the majority rules?
Sadly, our modern society considers the "majority decides" rule only on politics and when it most convenient.


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I'm not saying we should ignore their needs or anything like that, it's just that it seems minorities (be it racial or sexual) always manage to get their way in everything and they have to be allowed to win.
Yes, thanks to our already quite flawed society. The governments will never be fair with both parties, they just please one or the other.
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I agree, I wonder how Americans kind off want to be respected, if some of them admit hating their own country. What happened to patriotism and being proud of the land you were born? People tend to forget it. Not a single government in the world is uncorrupted, they all do their "stuff" and always work their best to make their life (not ours), better. Besides, Bush was elected by the people, so they should deal with it for making the wrong choice.
I think the whole touchy-feely and emo crap sorta go along with that lack of patriotism. It's easy to spot the faults in this country, but people either blow them out of proportion or don't take the time to step back and look at the good aspects. And then you have the weeaboo faggots who think Japan is superior to every country in the world because they watch too much anime.

NO! WE DID NOT ELECT BUSH IT WUZ RIGGED I DEMAND ANUTHER RECOUNT!

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That's just saying the same insult with words appropriate to their judgment. You are still calling that person fat. It's a reality, so they have to deal with it. It is not that they don't already know it. Again, it depends on how the comment is done and with what intention.
Sadly though, even if the comment isn't meant to be offensive, if it's just out of concern for someone's health or anything like that....it could still be taken wrong. People are entirely too touchy.

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Due to the fact that some retards (erm...might offend someone ), well more correctly said, "misguided and selfish" people were quite racist some years ago. The world was indeed racist, slavery was common, so it's not your fault, or my fault, or anyone's fault.

So treating Caucasians like devils is kind of racist too, don't you agree?
Oh it's very racist indeed. It wasn't us keeping them as slaves, it was our great great grandfathers (and even then, only some, my ancestors weren't slave owners). And that brings me to a couple issues that pisses me off about the black community. I hope no one takes these as racist :/

I am so sick of having to say "African American" to be politically correct. You aren't African. You're an American. You wouldn't call a Japanese man whose family had been living here for 200 something years a Japanese American, you'd call him an American. I'm sure it's a way for them to hold onto their culture, but at the same time it has the effect of estranging them from the rest of the American population.

I'm also tired of hearing them complain about their ancestors being slaves. I'm sorry your great great granddaddy was a slave, but stop hating on whites for a second and stop to think: if he hadn't been a slave, you would probably still be in Africa today, starving or being raped in Darfur or getting some godawful disease. Not to mention blacks seem to largely ignore that a large portion of the slave trade was done by Africans selling each other off. I don't know if that's left out of history books these days or not, it probably is. It would just be nice if they could get like...a little perspective, ya know? Sadly, most people today (of any race) lack a proper perspective on things.
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I think the whole touchy-feely and emo crap sorta go along with that lack of patriotism. It's easy to spot the faults in this country, but people either blow them out of proportion or don't take the time to step back and look at the good aspects. And then you have the weeaboo faggots who think Japan is superior to every country in the world because they watch too much anime.

NO! WE DID NOT ELECT BUSH IT WUZ RIGGED I DEMAND ANUTHER RECOUNT!
And here we are, bound to LOL to that.


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Sadly though, even if the comment isn't meant to be offensive, if it's just out of concern for someone's health or anything like that....it could still be taken wrong. People are entirely too touchy.
Well the world is of the strong, or at least it was like that several years ago.

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Oh it's very racist indeed. It wasn't us keeping them as slaves, it was our great great grandfathers (and even then, only some, my ancestors weren't slave owners).
Hence why is not your fault. People should learn not to live in the past. What is done, is done and there's nothing we can do about it.

And that brings me to a couple issues that pisses me off about the black community. I hope no one takes these as racist :/

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I am so sick of having to say "African American" to be politically correct. You aren't African. You're an American. You wouldn't call a Japanese man whose family had been living here for 200 something years a Japanese American, you'd call him an American. I'm sure it's a way for them to hold onto their culture, but at the same time it has the effect of estranging them from the rest of the American population.
American is every human being born in America, regardless of their racial heritage. If you are black, you are still American. If you have latino heritage, you are still American. If you look like a Japanese though you were born in America, you are still an American. All of these devisions serve to make a more racist community, because in a country, we are all supposed to be equal before the eyes of the Law and the Land. The term of "African American" is somewhat wrong, because not everyone in Africa is black. Besides, a person is not African if he/she is not born in there. Besides, the true Native Americans were Indians, not Caucasians.

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I'm also tired of hearing them complain about their ancestors being slaves. I'm sorry your great great granddaddy was a slave, but stop hating on whites for a second and stop to think: if he hadn't been a slave, you would probably still be in Africa today, starving or being raped in Darfur or getting some godawful disease.
Again, living in the past serves to have our society stuck with past mistakes. If only people could learn not to live in the past.

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Not to mention blacks seem to largely ignore that a large portion of the slave trade was done by Africans selling each other off. I don't know if that's left out of history books these days or not, it probably is. It would just be nice if they could get like...a little perspective, ya know? Sadly, most people today (of any race) lack a proper perspective on things.
Yes, some of the most greedy and brutal slave traders were in fact, Africans selling their own kind which is a reason to not place the whole fault on Caucasians. All of these facts, sometimes ignored, are the proof that makes our society quite hypocritical.

Is like when some blamed the Jews for the death of Jesus. It is not their fault that a few, not all, of their ancestors chose to kill Jesus. Jesus was simply judged by Roman authorities and a society that rejected his teachings.

The above example was made to clear the fact it is not fair for us to bear the burden of guilt because of the actions of our ancestors, something we do most of the time.


Not a single race on this planet is perfect, nor superior to any other. The black skin is only a result of evolution to have a greater defense against sunlight in regions where the temperature was hot, and the amount of sunlight was greater. The white skin is because in said regions, such natural defense (black skin) was not necessary. In the end, we are all mutations. Eyes, skin, hair, height, weight, everything are different steps of evolution that the humankind takes, unwillingly, to resist the hardships of the region in which they were born.

I am not sure though of that part I said, I am still not that advanced with Genetics.

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American is every human being born in America, regardless of their racial heritage. If you are black, you are still American. If you have latino heritage, you are still American. If you look like a Japanese though you were born in America, you are still an American. All of these devisions serve to make a more racist community, because in a country, we are all supposed to be equal before the eyes of the Law and the Land. The term of "African American" is somewhat wrong, because not everyone in Africa is black. Besides, a person is not African if he/she is not born in there. Besides, the true Native Americans were Indians, not Caucasians.
I totally forgot to mention that. If an Egyptian or a white South African came over here, nobody would call them "African American", even though they're both from Africa. It really does tend do away with equality when you single your race out.

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Yes, some of the most greedy and brutal slave traders were in fact, Africans selling their own kind which is a reason to not place the whole fault on Caucasians. All of these facts, sometimes ignored, are the proof that makes our society quite hypocritical.
I blame political correctness and the constant effort made today to not offend anybody. Can you imagine the shitstorm that would happen today if a black person read their history book and saw that Africans were involved in the slave trade?

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Is like when some blamed the Jews for the death of Jesus. It is not their fault that a few, not all, of their ancestors chose to kill Jesus. Jesus was simply judged by Roman authorities and a society that rejected his teachings.

The above example was made to clear the fact it is not fair for us to bear the burden of guilt because of the actions of our ancestors, something we do most of the time.
Amen brutha. It's the same way with alot of rednecks down here in the south, too. They STILL hate the north and run around muttering "damned yankees" and slapping the rebel flag wherever they can, because they're pissed off the north won the Civil War nearly 200 years ago. I just wanna give them all a swift kick in the nuts and tell them to quit whining. None of them ever stop to think that if the north had let them secede, the south would have died out. The economy was agrarian based and aside from things like tobacco and cotton, the trade business was dying out because of the industrialism in the north. Plus, the south relied heavily on slaves for their plantations and the slavery trade was dying out.

People need to let the past go for god's sake, and to learn to think with their heads and brush up on their history.


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Not a single race on this planet is perfect, nor superior to any other. The black skin is only a result of evolution to have a greater defense against sunlight in regions where the temperature was hot, and the amount of sunlight was greater. The white skin is because in said regions, such natural defense (black skin) was not necessary. In the end, we are all mutations. Eyes, skin, hair, height, weight, everything are different steps of evolution that the humankind takes, unwillingly, to resist the hardships of the region in which they were born.

I am not sure though of that part I said, I am still not that advanced with Genetics.

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Aye, finally we brought down some of my favorite topics together: Genetics, Racism and Politics.
Nope, you got it right And caucasians are of lighter skin because regions they lived in (Britain, Russia, etc.) had environments that prompted people to be more bundled up in clothing. Thus, need for darker skin to protect from the sunlight was gone since the clothing did that for them. Pretty much every trait a race shares is related to the environment of the region it came from.
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