Final Fantasy Forums

Welcome to Final Fantasy Forums, a community where you can discuss your love for all things Final Fantasy. Just go ahead and register for a free account. Community features:
  • The Shoutbox chat system
  • Free arcade
  • An active RPG system powered by Inferno (members may join after 50 posts)
  • Over 15,000 threads and 300,000 posts, and thousands of visitors each day
Go ahead and sign up today. After signing up, you can introduce yourself in the introductions forum.
  
Go Back   Final Fantasy Forums > Gaia > The Sleeping Forest
Reload this Page Abortion - your views.
 
The Sleeping Forest Forum for serious discussions on important issues. Debating is encouraged. Spam will not be tolerated here.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  
Old February 13, 2007, 7:04 PM   #51
Ex-Soldier
Symphaniz is on a distinguished road
 
Symphaniz's Avatar
Class: Member
Level: 0
HP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
MP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
EXP: 0
/100 (0%) /100 (0%)
 
Join Date: February 2007
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Age: 17
Posts: 65
Gil: 0
Member No.: 4177
Rep Power: 2
I don't agree with most abortions. Although, there are cases where I think that it should be allowed the arms wide open. For example: If a woman is raped and she becomes pregnant then I think that she should be able to have an abortion without anyone accusing of her of anything. Most of the time I think that if a mother doesn't want her child then it should be put up for adoption. I really don't let topics like this get to me, its the womans decision and I dont think pepople should judge other people for no reason at anytime.
Scan Symphaniz Symphaniz is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Go to the top of the page
  
Old February 14, 2007, 6:54 PM   #52
I Think... Therefore You Are
QuickSilverD is on a distinguished road
 
QuickSilverD's Avatar
Class: Full Member
Level: 0
HP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
MP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
EXP: 0
/100 (0%) /100 (0%)
 
Join Date: January 2007
Location: Dominican Republic
Age: 20
Posts: 207
Threads: 13
Gil: 0
Member No.: 3180
Rep Power: 3
I have a different stance on abortion: I'm against abortion, but for killing babies. There is no contradiction because there are not the same thing [/sarcams]
__________________
If being EMO makes you happy then you're probably doing something wrong




Scan QuickSilverD QuickSilverD is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Go to the top of the page
  
Old February 16, 2007, 10:56 AM   #53
Luff you Blastoise
Judge Rulia is a jewel in the rough
 
Judge Rulia's Avatar
Class: Global Moderator
Level: 0
HP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
MP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
EXP: 0
/100 (0%) /100 (0%)
 
Join Date: November 2006
Posts: 2,037
Threads: 42
Gil: 0
Member No.: 1555
My Mood:
Rep Power: 7
Quote:
Making a baby is making a human and making a mistake (getting pregnant when you dont want to) is not the babys fault and should not be taken out on them.
Thats like punishing an innocent for something someone else you did
So people keep saying, and for those who have intercourse for the fun of it and have abortions when they should actually deal with their "mistakes", I have no respect for.

But in the case of rape, aren't women innocent also? People also say that the baby shouldn't be aborted, because it wasn't it's fault that it was brought into this world - the woman is also an innocent person, and she should be able to choose an abortion in such a case, because personally, that woman has more of a right to do what she wants after she has been assaulted rather then let herself be told what to do.

I would mortified if I had to keep a baby from a rape - I wouldn't be able to love it as my own, and keeping it for 9 months before it being born would distress me immensely.
__________________


[br]Feed Me![br]Adopted from Valenth
Scan Judge Rulia Judge Rulia is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Go to the top of the page
  
Old February 16, 2007, 11:09 AM   #54
Ex-Soldier
xIntegrityx is on a distinguished road
 
xIntegrityx's Avatar
Class: Member
Level: 0
HP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
MP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
EXP: 0
/100 (0%) /100 (0%)
 
Join Date: February 2007
Location: Auburn California
Age: 18
Posts: 70
Threads: 11
Gil: 0
Member No.: 3939
Rep Power: 2
Religeon straight up corrupts peoples minds. Anyway. What this whole thing boils down to, I think... Is a choice. I don't think this is my opinion, I think this is how it actually is.. But then again, I guess thats what an opinion is... OH WELL you know what I mean!

Everyone has a choice to make. The choice is theirs, no one else's.
__________________
http://i7.tinypic.com/2dsk84n.jpg
Scan xIntegrityx xIntegrityx is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Go to the top of the page
  
Old March 7, 2007, 5:16 PM   #55
What's happenin' all?
Strife is on a distinguished road
 
Strife's Avatar
Class: Full Member
Level: 0
HP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
MP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
EXP: 0
/100 (0%) /100 (0%)
 
Join Date: January 2007
Age: 17
Posts: 364
Threads: 18
Gil: 0
Member No.: 3581
Rep Power: 2
I believe that abortion is okay. The "baby" won't feel any pain and it's not like going out a killing someone, the "baby" won't know the difference. I now have to go and write a four a page project on abortion so some I may use some of the comments here if nobody minds.
__________________



Scan Strife Strife is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Go to the top of the page
  
Old March 7, 2007, 5:19 PM   #56
** Ooh, shiny vampire **
Mariella will become famous soon enough
 
Mariella's Avatar
Class: Veteran Member
Level: 0
HP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
MP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
EXP: 0
/100 (0%) /100 (0%)
 
Join Date: June 2006
Location: Manchester, UK
Age: 23
Posts: 3,057
Threads: 141
Gil: 0
Member No.: 37
My Mood:
Rep Power: 6
I dont know where I stand on this subject, hopefully I will never be placed in the situation*touch wood*.

Lets say a woman or girl is raped and wishes for a termination, okay then fair enough. But if you have unprotected sex and dont think of the consequences then Im agaisnt it. Why should this child suffer for your horniness?

People will see flaws in what Ive said, but fair enough. As I said I dont know where I stand 100% on the subject, but at the end of the day theres no right or wrong ansswer, just opinion.
__________________

..//A Coco Production\\..

..//A Casanova Production\\..


Quote:
Originally Posted by Einalith
Toad (Original Mario series) - "THANK YOU MARIO! BUT THE PRINCESS IS IN ANOTHER CASTLE. "
Scan Mariella Mariella is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Go to the top of the page
  
Old March 7, 2007, 5:21 PM   #57
Sweety
Savior of the Damned is on a distinguished road
 
Savior of the Damned's Avatar
Class: Full Member
Level: 0
HP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
MP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
EXP: 0
/100 (0%) /100 (0%)
 
Join Date: January 2007
Location: Worcestershire
Posts: 474
Threads: 4
Gil: 0
Member No.: 3782
Rep Power: 2
I think abortion is wrong, because its murder simply. Its taking away a life. The parents will always think what might have he/she been like if i didnt have an abortion, they will always have this guilt
__________________
I CLaim Leki and Im not sharing!!! So there!!
Scan Savior of the Damned Savior of the Damned is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Go to the top of the page
  
Old March 27, 2007, 9:53 PM   #58
Chocobo Breeder
Noopika is on a distinguished road
 
Noopika's Avatar
Class: Junior Member
Level: 0
HP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
MP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
EXP: 0
/100 (0%) /100 (0%)
 
Join Date: March 2007
Location: Alexandria
Age: 20
Posts: 15
Gil: 0
Member No.: 4933
Rep Power: 0
Contraceptives are your friends.

But sometimes, they fail and then you end up pregnant.

Now, the question arises: What do you do?

If you make abortion illegal you take away that choice. Suddenly you're going to have to go through with the pregnancy. And pregnancies are not pretty. To those of you who say "give the kid up for adoption", do you know anything about what happens to a woman's body throughout the pregnancy and during the birth? It leaves permanent scars on the body, you can walk around feeling like crap for the whole 9 months (not to add the psychological stress it would give for you to walk around carrying a child you know you're going to adopt away) and it's not like you get well right away afterwards. A pregnancy is a pretty ugly deal, and I wouldn't want it for someone who doesn't even want the child growing inside of them.

I just feel that this is my body. If I got pregnant, I don't know what I would do, but I would like to have a choice. Accidents happens, as well as rapes. What I oppose the most is a bunch of older men sitting around a table, telling me what I can and cannot do with a body. During the first few weeks of the pregnancy, the "child" (more like a parasite, actually) doesn't have any feelings, it doesn't have any thoughts.

I don't think it's murder to abort children.. and if you do.. would you call a woman who has a miscarriage a murderer? Accidentally murder someone, and they'll still punish you for it. I'm just saying, in my opinion most people who are opposed the CHOICE seem to be ignorant, not knowing the actual facts. If you wouldn't have an abortion, I can completely relate, it's your body.. which is why you call it pro-choice.

I also support proper sexual education in schools. I think a lot less teenagers would get pregnant had they had proper education about birth control. It's not rocket science, but they have to get the information from somewhere.


__________________
Scan Noopika Noopika is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Go to the top of the page
  
Old March 28, 2007, 6:11 PM   #59
Queen Bitch of the Universe.
Kerrigan is a jewel in the rough
 
Kerrigan's Avatar
Class: Global Moderator
Level: 0
HP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
MP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
EXP: 0
/100 (0%) /100 (0%)
 
Join Date: June 2006
Location: Fife, Scotland.
Age: 17
Posts: 5,663
Threads: 360
Gil: 0
Member No.: 78
My Mood:
Rep Power: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Savior of the Damned View Post
I think abortion is wrong, because its murder simply. Its taking away a life. The parents will always think what might have he/she been like if i didnt have an abortion, they will always have this guilt
Depends on when you believe life begins - some believe it begins at conception, others at birth, others and X weeks, etc.
__________________


Scan Kerrigan Kerrigan is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Go to the top of the page
  
Old March 28, 2007, 9:29 PM   #60
Blue Mage
Tifa AC is on a distinguished road
 
Tifa AC's Avatar
Class: Full Member
Level: 0
HP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
MP: 0/0
/ (0%) / (0%)
EXP: 0
/100 (0%) /100 (0%)
 
Join Date: March 2007
Location: in my world
Posts: 136
Threads: 5
Gil: 0
Member No.: 4757
Rep Power: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Garnet View Post
I am completely pro-life. Abortion is murder, there is no question to me about that. From the moment the baby is conceived, it is a living creature. Every single life deserves a chance.
Thats the only truth,have any of you ever watched a movie about abotion?


It is simple. Do no have sex if you are not willing to accept the consequences. I don't care if your protection fails or whatever, because everyone knows that the only way to be 100% positive you will not become pregnant is to abstain completely. If you're not mature enought to handle that, you shouldn't be engaging in sexual activity.
2 truth


Quote:
Originally Posted by Garnet View Post
Well, people can argue the "facts" back and forth forever.

And being "too poor" is not an excuse...people will always say they can't afford to have a baby. You just make a way somehow...and there are always government programs/family/or even adoption if you are truly impoverished.
The day i got pregnant with my first son we dident had any Money,we dident had even our own home we were on rent an apartemen,but we sticked together and we made it and now i've got 2.If you whant to make it you'll make it.
But until you actually have a child of your own, and realize and look into the eyes of what you would have killed if you would have had an abortion, I just don't think you can truly realize just how awful abortion is.
There is nothing but realy nothing more beautifull happend in a womans life than giving a child birth,looking at it after and giving the baby Milk from you know where.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strife View Post
I believe that abortion is okay. The "baby" won't feel any pain and it's not like going out a killing someone, the "baby" won't know the difference. I now have to go and write a four a page project on abortion so some I may use some of the comments here if nobody minds.
Like i told bevore thats not true,if you would watch an abortion movie you will se