I would have to disagree with your statement of that information as irrelevant... Both Drachnon and myself have had serious discussion with the moderators over the way we treated our last battle.

We (i can only speak in fact for myself but have heard similar stories from Drach) were instructed that we would just need to make up our own back story for the tournament. Drachnon did so and as a result this cost him the battle? If one were to limit once self to merely "relevant" or "pertinent" information one could just as well make a 10 line post along the lines of "I wake up, i find myself fighting some dragon dude, i say this and summon daemon x//fire an energy blast" or what ever move your character makes. The "useless" detail is what imo separates the "good" rpgers from the "bad".
Example: in the last 10 rpgs (of both on and offline variety) how many times did your character Eat, sleep, go to the bathroom, wash and or get clean underwear? Thinking of details like this is what makes a character become more then just a few pages of data stored on a hard drive and a server somewhere and makes him,/her become "alive" -for want of a better term-. Along these lines, my character Nova Carmine went from “cool character” to “favorite” character in an rpg which was run by Hera Ledro (OT: just what is the problem with having one account name and sticking with it? This is IMO needlessly complex) because of “needless information” like back-story and the like.
I think in order to properly role-play your character you need information like that. Another example: Nova for instance is someone who when on “assignment” wears very functional clothing, bullet proof vest with MOLLE webbing and a pair of cargo pants. Functional and camouflaging making her “work” as a Sniper easier. This includes sports brassieres and the like. However given a choice she would much rather wear loose fitting pants and Silk undies. It’s more comfortable and she can afford to.

I am not a moderator or anything so feel free to ignore this but it is my opinion born of role-playing for the better part of a decade that the “useless” and “impertinent” information is what makes for really good characters and the truly memorable moments that you’ll be talking about for long times after the original role-play has ended are the useless info.

FireFrenzy

P.S. Hell I still consider one of the best posts I have ever written to be a page and half long discussion on the back story of the lizard man people in an rpg on a forum that is long since dead. A page and a half of information about why the choice one of the other players made was wrong and what consequences it had for the “uninteresting” npc characters. It was about a character that needed to ascend to godhood against his wishes so he could restore balance to the world and he decided not too. I could have just slapped him on his head and tossed him into the ritual pit or I could have made up some “needless” and “useless” back story as to WHY I am doing that.

P.P.S. I am well aware that RPBs tend to be shorter with less information and back story and more “lets bash each other on the head” but that’s no excuse for bad role-playing…

Might I start by citing that your opinion on the matter, FireFrenzy, is equally as irrelevant as the aforementioned. =)


I have been informed that, yes, creating a backstory relevant to your character in order to 'spice' up the fight is encouraged, but surely you can't expect me to credit him for over half a post of "backstory"? This is a role playing tournament battle, not role playing tournament give-me-your-life-story.

As you can see, by the scoring it's had very little effect on the outcome; I don't utilise the 'bonus points' that Contra does, so a notable amount of points was not subtracted. In essence yes, it did cost him. I'm here to Judge the criteria, not what he feels like typing on the side.

Furthermore, note he lost three points for grammar.

Congratulations; you've exaggerated hugely.

Again, you seem to be missing the point of RPBs - particularly of this variety. This tournament was arranged to test who was the greater combatant, not descriptor of why they slept on the left and how much those beans made him fart throughout the night.

Well done! You've succeeded in participating in an RP. However, this is simply not necessary for battling. I want details of the battle, nothing more.


You heard him, mods. -thumbs up-

Although very true, you just seem to be horribly confused as to the context in which people should add such information.

Now you're getting it!

Ah, so this all boils down to the fact you think Hera is a bad RPer? I apologise on his behalf for adhering to RPB standards.





I note that only one Judge has posted thusfar, due to her inability to effectively Judge whilst on her current computer; this may sway the result.

The first post was nessisary to justify why Ravona was there and didn't just surrender before the battle started. I know I could have done that in 3 lines but then it would seem like a rush job compared to the rest of my post. So unless you actually deducted points for writing it I don't see your problem.

BTW If by unessisary information you mean Ravona's thoughts on her opponents abilities and such then I can assure you those are nessisary. Ravona is a very intelligent person and though I might not have made this very clear in her bio she's not someone who, especially in battle, will do anything without putting sufficient thought into it.
Attacking without a greater plan is not something any seasoned fighter will do. Ravona is not even a fighter but a mage who will put even more thought into their plans. I even had a plan which required Ravona to move away form the battle a bit (one of the reasons she had moved away from it). I never got to put it in motion but that doesn't really matter.
In fact I'm kinda disappointed that I don't see more people who do long term planning in their posts. Pretty much all the battles I've read are pretty much a continuous repetition of evade/block opponent and then attack yourself. I'd like to see people take actions that won't have any affect till 3 posts later.

I know that in character roleplaying is not judged neither is sensibility (or logic for that matter). But that doesn't mean that you don't have to bother with it at all.

Now I choose the first daemon for more reasons other then the ones I gave in the post. I figured that Danny the Cat wanted to fight a melee battle considering how much effort he put in describing what stance. Plus since Ravona would just use improved invisibility and/or teleport away whenever Jake comes near I can guarentee you that there wouldn't have been much Jake could do.
Can you imagine how disappointed I was when Danny the Cat decided to not fight close combat but instead make it a blasting battle :(

Btw you do have to explain yieldability to me since Ravona never evaded anything nor did her deamons (he tried though). So how can I score lower here then Danny the Cat who did evade at least something?

I can understand grammar/spelling though. I'm Dutch and dyslectic so my spellings check exists out of what open office finds for me which doesn't cover everything, or so it seems.

EDIT:
p.s. since the backstory and extra information do not count for the RPB I'll asume you didn't deduct any points for any grammar/spellings mistakes made in them. Otherwise I'm going to ask to return them to me.

I am a bit disappointed to see that you two [Drachnon & FireFrenzy] have jumped the gun on this. Judging results are not to be disputed. If you have an issue, you are welcome to privately discuss it with the Judges. Although, seeing as how both of you didn't even bother to wait for my results, it doesn't seem like that was even a thought.

Judging Results:

Drachnon
Originality/Creativity: 10
Interaction with Environment: 9
Yieldability: 10
Readability/Grammar: 8
Power-playing/God-modding: 10

Score=47/50
-2 Points.
Final=45/50

Comments:
If you and FireFrenzy did not post, you could have tied this battle. But, because you wished to be judged on RPB-only material, my judging was limited, and points were deducted from your score:

-1 Point for Laziness. It would not have been a hassle for you to have logged out of FireFrenzy's account and into your own name. I was shocked that you posted under his name because you 'didn't feel like changing names.'

+ 1 Point for Description. I gave you a bonus point, because you showed a lot of effort in your posts, and they were very detailed. I will not claim 'irrelevance,' but I will inform you that again, this is an RPB battle, so description is meant for the battle itself, not for the backstory.

-1 Point for FireFrenzy's Post. For not waiting for my judging post, I had to deduct a point from your score. Not only is it rude, but it shows poor sportsmanship to argue results before they're even fully posted.

-1 Point for Drachnon's Post. I deducted a point for the same reason as mentioned above. Lurid was not the only Judge in this battle. And, again, any sort of judging dispute should be handled privately, and NOT within the battle thread itself.

Due to poor sportsmanship and hastiness, you have lost this round. No one else in this Tournament has caused as much of a fuss as you two have. I can understand having questions, and concerns...but you've both gone about it the wrong way.

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Danny the Cat
Originality/Creativity: 9
Interaction with Environment: 10
Yieldability: 10
Readability/Grammar: 9
Power-playing/God-modding: 10

Score=48/50
-1 Point
Final=47/50

Comments:
Over-all you've done a very good job. I wished that your posts were a little bit longer, in an attempt to match the length of Drachnon's posts, but everything else was very well done. I'll explain the point deduction below:

-1 Point for Shorter Posts. I felt like your posts could have been a little longer. In total, Drachnon had 3,223 words for their posts, while you had 922. Granted, Drachnon posted first, the difference in length is quite large.

Your posts were engaging, and you focused more-so on the battle itself. Congrats on being the winner for this round.

Winner: Danny The Cat!

Wait I'm being deducted points for Frenzy's post?????

Yes, and I'm positive that Lurid would have agreed with me on this. You two are close friends, which is obvious because you even posted on his computer at his house. Surely he spoke to you before posting, and even if that were not the case, you posted after him. No one else has interrupted the results. So I consider it a very high offense. Had I not deducted that point, you would have tied with Danny The Cat. But, because of your post, the tie-breaker would have ended in a decision for Danny The Cat to be the victor. Good sportsmanship is a very big deal in a Tournament.

We have spoken several times privately, as it should have been, and the same goes for FireFrenzy. For the both of you to be so vocal about this battle, before I even had time to post my results...it cost you, no matter how you spin it.

This thread is now closed. If you have any further comments, you are welcome to privately message me or Danny The Cat, as that is what should have happened in the first place.

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