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June 30, 2007, 3:25 AM
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Teachers Allowed to Carry Weapons in School?
I've been hearing news that they are trying to pass a law in which teachers and school staff are permitted to carry weapons in school after extensive weapons training.
Some of the states already gave the thumbs up to this idea. So the question is, do you think it's a good idea or not?
I'll post my views later.
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June 30, 2007, 3:30 AM
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I think it's a great idea especially after the College incident I can't remember where it was but 31 children were killed. I think it's a great idea that people should be allowed to defend the classroom.
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June 30, 2007, 3:52 AM
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My 7th grade teacher was constantly being threatened by some girl she used to teach who had just gotten out of jail. She eventually had to move away to somewhere beyond my knowledge. If that dropout had actually made good on her promises, that law definitely would've been handy.
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June 30, 2007, 4:12 AM
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I honestly think that the whole idea is preposterous. First, violence will not solve violence. Just think of the multiple problems it would create.
For instance, a teacher is human…just like the students. They can potentially lose control of their temperament or even sanity as compared to those who committed violent crimes in schools previously. Having the title “Teacher” does not make someone responsible enough to carry a weapon in school where the instructor may endanger the lives of children or adolescents.
How can the certain presence and increase of firearms on school campuses guarantee a decrease in violence? So how can we be sure that this whole idea would not backfire on the students? That is the thing – we’re not sure at all. We can never be sure on anything in this world. I would not trust the idea of having my children in a classroom with a teacher carrying a weapon – at all.
I know we’re all upset with all the school violence happening…it can’t be helped. A choice is a choice, and whether students choose to execute it or not is not in our hands. Because how do we really know that the person sitting beside us will plan something that will jeopardize many lives? Or if that person will be the victim instead? You see, we don’t know these things, and the lack of knowing is the problem. How would we know whether a teacher will or will not do the same thing?
I have heard others say, “If you can trust someone with a student's mind and future, why not trust them with their bodies as well?” Valid point, but my problem with that is the whole trust issues. You cannot really trust anyone nowadays – most definitely concerning people’s lives.
Another point is that if the laws are indeed passed, then all the students all over the world will be aware of this. Now, think of what can happen then. A little imagination here and there and soon we’ll have students (at least that one crazy student) bringing down the classroom or school by playing war games with their most hated teachers. You get the idea.
The whole point is to not bring guns and violence inside schools. Prevent them, but not in a way that will jeopardize more innocents by bringing countless weapons in school.
A safer environment…? Not bloody likely.
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June 30, 2007, 4:36 AM
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I'm with Mit on this one. She has made exacty the points I would make.
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June 30, 2007, 2:11 PM
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In my opinion this is a ridiculously stupid idea.
Theyre tryin to stop pupils taking in weapons so why let the teachers carry them?????
How will this benefit a teacher??? If a pupil gives them aggro or threatens them are they really gonna take out their weapon and use it?
This will only lead to more confrontation where the likely outcome is that someone will die.
Schools meant to be for learning, allowing teachers to carry weapons isnt gonna help solve the problem of misbehaving pupils. The whole idea is just crap!
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June 30, 2007, 4:59 PM
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No, the solution is a kid gets three misbehaviour marks a day, if he/she hits three then they are marched out to a hanging tree where they are hung while the rest of the school watches. The body is left for 2 weeks and then is removed at the expense of the kid's parents.
I reckon discipline would improve in a couple of weeks.
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July 1, 2007, 10:12 AM
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I disagree with teachers carrying weapons... sends the wrong message
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July 1, 2007, 6:55 PM
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Teachers SHOULD NOT be allowed to carry guns to school. Teachers are just as human as the school shooters. Say they have a problem student who is always acting up and calling the teacher names and disrupting the class. The teacher might finally snap one day and shoot the kid. Teacher goes to jail. Going ape-sh1t and wanting to shoot someone can happen to anyone. Even if teachers are allowed to carry guns the student would still have the element of surprise. They could still shoot the teacher before the teacher knew what was going on. I think the only faculty that should be allowed to carry a firearm are the campus security. If schools really wanted to keep school shootings from happening then they would find a way to keep them from happening. The best way is metal detectors. Random searches. Uniforms that have very little loose space or tiny pockets. They are plenty of ways to keep guns out of schools without endangering the lives of students.
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July 1, 2007, 7:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Grimoire Valentine
No, the solution is a kid gets three misbehaviour marks a day, if he/she hits three then they are marched out to a hanging tree where they are hung while the rest of the school watches. The body is left for 2 weeks and then is removed at the expense of the kid's parents.
I reckon discipline would improve in a couple of weeks.
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Its all fine and well saying that but do u honestly believe that is the right way too do something.
''if u talk again whilest im teaching its off to the gallows'' hahaha
And also do u believe the individual would just let the teachers lead them to be hung hahahahahahaha i think not. lol i hope ur havin a laugh cuz as a means to stop kids misbehaving that idea sucks.
Its an idea though
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