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Old November 13, 2007, 7:59 PM   #1
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Why?

Do people continue to believe in God? Where is the evidence? My question to the believers of God is, if He does exist, and is "all powerful" and "all knowing" then why does he allow things like famine and war to happen? Natural disasters like earthquakes and Tsunamis, why can't God simply prevent them?

This ties in with my second question, is God needed in this day and age? Surely with science and technology God isn't needed right? That and the fact that Gods actions have been strangely absent for the past 2000 years or so.

So, yeah, why do people continue to belive in God and obey the bible?
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Old November 13, 2007, 8:04 PM   #2
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I think it's merely a force of habit; a one that refuses to die. It's hard to change people's way of living, and religion has, and in some cultures still does, dictated the way in which people live for millenia. It's just going to take time for people to let go of religion and change their way of living. Imo.
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Old November 13, 2007, 8:14 PM   #3
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This is an argument that's gone on way too much and really at the heart of is pointless. Other normal peoples beliefs don't or shouldn't affect you or me in any way so I just let people get on with it since it's their own choice to do it and I won't force anyone to believe otherwise. Everyone has different reasons for following their respective faith.
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Old November 13, 2007, 8:15 PM   #4
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Why do you bloody atheists insist on questioning peoples beliefs, and keep telling them they're wrong?

It's the same bloody arguement you produce every single time, and there's no right or wrong answer, because there is no answer.

Fuck sake, just let people get on with whatever they believe in, and stop being such a bunch of awkward "look how apathetic I am" teenage goits.
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Old November 14, 2007, 3:10 PM   #5
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I don't know what a "goit" is per se, if you meant git you should take it back. Direct attacks aren't permitted.

There is a point, but honestly if you ask us to prove to you that God doesn't exist, prove to me that the world wasn't created by accident by the sweat of a space-giant's arm pit. That is abouts as ridiculous as the whole God-creationist argument. There's as much proof in both scenarios i.e. fuck all.
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Old November 14, 2007, 3:21 PM   #6
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People cling to religion, just the same as lovers cling to each other.

People see religion as a way of helping them, if you lose someone you really loved, be it family or friend, then alot of people feel like they don't have anything else to turn to.

Also, if you are raised into a religion, and your parents or whoever are serious about what they believe, this leads us to follow the same path. Although i think that if they aren't serious then the kid follows no path even although he/she is being raised that way.

I for one was baptised, had my first communion etc etc, but i do not at all believe in God.

I think people just see it as a way out, to get away from their problems and be happy about something..
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Old November 14, 2007, 3:30 PM   #7
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I was brought up into religion but left when there were too many logical fallacies for me to cope with.
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Old November 14, 2007, 5:56 PM   #8
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I don't know what a "goit" is per se, if you meant git you should take it back. Direct attacks aren't permitted.

There is a point, but honestly if you ask us to prove to you that God doesn't exist, prove to me that the world wasn't created by accident by the sweat of a space-giant's arm pit. That is abouts as ridiculous as the whole God-creationist argument. There's as much proof in both scenarios i.e. fuck all.
Goit is my word for git.

You raise a valid point, it's why I've decided on nihlism, until someone can sway me otherwise.

The atheist arguement that the universe was nothing and exploded into something contradicts its own theory that energy cannot be created or destroyed, so how is the big bang plausible.

Both parties beliefs in my opinion are absolute rubbish, but I'm not about to go and make a big fuss about it. I let people believe as they see fit. I suggest everyone else does the same
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Old November 14, 2007, 6:23 PM   #9
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Why do you bloody atheists insist on questioning peoples beliefs, and keep telling them they're wrong?

It's the same bloody arguement you produce every single time, and there's no right or wrong answer, because there is no answer.

Fuck sake, just let people get on with whatever they believe in, and stop being such a bunch of awkward "look how apathetic I am" teenage goits.
Agree. Aggressive Christians = Aggressive Atheists. They're both annoying.

I don't understand why Atheists even care why people believe in God. Does it really matter why?

As for the "why does God let this happen?!" idea: have you ever read the Old Testament? God isn't nice. At all. The concept of the loving, forgiving God is a relatively new Christian thing. Not everyone believes in a 'caring' god. There ARE religions other than Christianity.

Science and technology are great. But honestly, all they can tell us is "how"; they can't say why. Religion offers the "why" answer.
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Old November 14, 2007, 6:28 PM   #10
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Science and technology are great. But honestly, all they can tell us is "how"; they can't say why. Religion offers the "why" answer.
In other words, Religion tells us what we want to hear. It's a sense of comfort. I have not, do not and will not grudge anyone that sense of comfort - it's admirable, if nothing else. I'm just part of the opposition who'd rather be more skeptical.
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