Agnostic.... not Atheist. I can see why people believe in a God, and I respect that. It's when religion harms others that there's a problem. I.e. Religious extremism and hatred.
The same goes for dogmatic atheists. "OMG HOW CAN YOU BELIEVE IN A GOD, THAT'S SO STUPID, YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE FOR IT!!! YOU RETARD!!!!!"
Religion can bring hope.

I also question shaky, outdated pagan beliefs. Thor does not make thunder. That has been disproved by science. Pitiful, really. You have Odin, Zeus, Ra, Jupiter, and so on, all the supposed "Kings of the Gods", and yet all faded into myth. They fail in the face of monotheism.

i'm agnostic, (been atheist before but that's before i thought about it) i believe that we we cannot know and probably will never know. I haven't looked into religion that much to me if a man looked at the bible and didn't know about Christianity it would go to the fiction section of the library, its like berrying harry potter and in a thousand years time people believe in him as a religion.

I would say a lack of honour for you family (and a warped mind) leads to such things as child abuse, beating your wife . Also do not slander me! I have never made any claims about race; I am completely against racism. Don’t make stuff up!


You basically just agreed with me. I would call that a reason not to honour that individual.

That statement makes no sense. It has nothing to do with what I said

So we should be able to measure him then? Like gravity. And maybe you should read about my gods a bit more before speaking.

So we should be able to measure him then? Like wind.


And not biased or insulting in the slightest?

I once met a guy named god force, he was a great guy, we watched Futurama and ate pie.

If your not going to make sensible arguments how do you expect me to take you seriously?

Maybe you should learn more about African culture before making stupid comments. Also I could use the Japanese as an example with their large belief in Shinto and technological advancement.


[quote=Katsky;394713] How is he African if he lives in the UK? [quote=Katsky;394713]

You called me and Africans lunkhead’s (or more accurately compared me to African lunkheads (and I don’t think any of the ones my family new when we lived there would like your racist tone)) remember that. Well I was defending me as I felt the African comment stands out as the stupid racist generalisation that it is.

I agree but it seems to me that you are the one who needs to question his beliefs.

Remember the key word learn?

Your close minded because you don’t question, just insult.

as I said before “So basically I believe due to my agreement of the morals, my love of the traditions and the lore.”

The morals being: (NB: these are not laws just the top virtues that are present in the lore and commonly agreed upon (all should be guided by wisdom)
Boldness/ Courage
Truth
Honour
Troth
Self-rule
Guest-Friendliness
Busyship
Self Rule
Perseverance

Please feel free to read the lore and then disagree with me just don’t make it up.

You can also insult and shun them into it.

Ignoring the fact that that you just contradicted yourself. I don’t believe Thor makes thunder (and as I said before I don’t even believe he is literally a big guy with a hammer). I could say that monotheism fails in the face of atheism. If you can believe in one god I fail to see how you can see more then one as “crazy”. I do not believe in the literal meaning of the lore, just that there is meaning there and I would say it is no more outdated or crazy then any monotheistic religion.

Let's take things into context. I believe Judeo-Christian beliefs to have some credit to them, unlike polytheistic mythology. Completely absurd fairy tales... especially such pseudo-religious "new age" tripe, in the face of science. Where are your grounds for belief in such? God is worshipped by BILLIONS. Most norsemen ditched Odin and Thor in the face of monotheism. That says alot.
We have rational explanations for alot of that which was surrounded with superstition. Phenomena which such polytheism tried to answer, but was proved incorrect by science. Why revive a dead, ancient religion, which has not weathered the passage of time well?

Have you read the bible?…… I have…… People in glass houses.

When have I (or my religion) made claims against science (as I pointed out I am my self a scientist). Our religion is not applicable to science (and vice versa); it is a world view not a complete truth. And have you seen those intelligent design people?

Yes, because superior numbers makes belief = fact
I do not claim to have grounds for believing, (I’m only claiming I have the same amount as any other religious person) in fact my first I post pointed out my lack of it and that I was okay with it. If I wasn’t an Asatruar I’d be an Atheist, Asatru’s way of living sits well with me and that’s why I believe.

Actually most where killed.

There is very little superstition in our faith, in fact we often wonder of the superstitious nature of Christians.

I would say only people’s belief didn’t survive the test of time, and as I said before it sits well with me and monotheism doesn’t. Don’t get me wrong I’m not attempting to condemn monotheists and say they should be polytheists just that my belief does not lack validity because you don’t like/ agree with it. I was previously an atheist because I disliked the idea of kneeling/ bowing to a god and offering my self as a servant and I didn’t like the logic that got them to there morals (hell) as well as the idea of an all knowing, infallible god.


This is why I believe, I do not shove my views down others throats (or try not to), I’m just trying to explain what I believe so you can understand why. I am not a tree hugging hippie (in fact I really dislike them), I do not believe so that I can stand out (if you looked at me and spoke with me I doubt you could tell me apart from anyone else). I just felt I should clear this up before this becomes a bashing competition.