Does God punish masturbation? - Page 5

March 9, 2008, 5:26 PM

The whole 'it doesn't harm anyone' arguement is missing one important fact.

Bukkake, it's all fun and games until someone loses an eye.

Srsly tho, if god is going to watch me fap to see if I'm not, instead of oh I don't know making sure the starving people aren't starving, and stopping wars.

Then you've got to ask, what kind of god is that? You get up to St Peters gates.

Fapper #1: Hey can I get in?
Peter: Well we've been watching you, and you've been stroking one eyed jack the pirate til he pukes so, byebye *pulls lever*
Mass Murderer #1: *shifty eyes* Hi there, can I come in
Fapper #2: Don't let him in he's a murderer
Peter: Well, God and I didn't see no murders, we did however see you crying spunky tears all over your clean bed sheets *pulls lever* Welcome to Heaven Mass Murderer #1"

It's a bit fucking stupid imho.

So no, I think the idea of getting punished for tossing the purple jack is retarded. Especially the "wasting your men" nonsense, it will get wasted anyway. Wet Dreams for example, happen naturally. Clearly we're going to hell for our own bodily functions.

March 9, 2008, 6:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Frisky

Lets not forget that the bible is more outdated than that 50's article I found on how to be a good wife.....

Il bet everything we do in a daily life is punishable by God.

Yarly. Not to mention it was a totally different (and backwards) culture.

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Originally Posted by Finnegan III

So no, I think the idea of getting punished for tossing the purple jack is retarded. Especially the "wasting your men" nonsense, it will get wasted anyway. Wet Dreams for example, happen naturally. Clearly we're going to hell for our own bodily functions.

Good ol' puberty

And I've heard (though I don't know if it's true), that wet dreams are much more frequent if you're not fapping or having sex, and since the body has to get rid of the excess semen it just spurts it out at night. Like I said, dunno the validity of that, but either way it's a natural process so is that "killing lives" too?

March 9, 2008, 7:16 PM

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Originally Posted by VengefulRonin

And I've heard (though I don't know if it's true), that wet dreams are much more frequent if you're not fapping or having sex, and since the body has to get rid of the excess semen it just spurts it out at night.

I've heard that too, and it makes enough sense.

Anyway, I'm not religious so my opinion on religion probably shouldn't be taken to far, but no I don't think so. The way I see it if god is real, then most of the bible isn't true. I mean whether god had a hand in it or not the bible was written by men, and I'm sure it's seen its share of creative editing. If there's a god, I just can't imagine he'd punish someone for fapping, or loving someone of a different race or same gender, or that he'd say any one race is better than the other...etc. etc. I don't think you could take any religious text at face value.

I like to imagine God doesn't care if you fap, people are just putting words in his mouth. He's a victim here! That's why he doesn't do any more interviews.

March 9, 2008, 7:32 PM

I don't really know what to believe in regards to this, but Roman Catholics would say he does. It goes against Natural Law, which is a basis for Catholic teaching. When one masturbates, they're using the sexual organs for pleasure, when their puspose is to reproduce. Any sexual act which does not lead to reproduction is seen as immoral, which is why they ban contraception. Of course, sex isn't immoral if you're just unsuccessful in regards to producing a kid. But masturbations a no no. It's all about self-indulgence.

However, not all ethical beliefs teach this. There are those religions which don't condemn it at all, if they even mention it. But there are none, that I know of, which actually encourage it. It's really not a question one can answer without knowing which, if any, religion is right.

I take Philosophy and Ethics at school/college. xD

March 9, 2008, 7:52 PM

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ok, first of all, God doesn't "punish" you for anything. In this life or the next. As long as we beileve in him, we are good to go. now, he gives us a bible so we know what to do given the circumstance. dont steal, dont dis youre mom, dont cheat on youre wife. all that good stuff.

but theres NEVER anything that sais "dont sin.....or else" because god already knew we were all gonna be screw ups. no rule that sais "thou shalt not sin". whats the point in wasting the lighting on another commandment that is impossible??? so youre good on the whole "god is going to punish me" thing.

if you ever recieve punishment by the goverment or get hurt for something stupid you did, its youre own damn fault! its called phisics! if you drink too much alcohal, you might pass out. if you speed, you might get in a car wreck. if you kill someone, you might get caught. its not gods fault.

next thing, it never sais anywhere NOT to masturbate. I dont think you should watch pornagraphy. thats definatly a no-no, because its lust.

Im not against it at all. If it can save a marriage or other relationship, then im all for it. if jake cheated on me, ide beat him up and never talk to the prick again. but if he just went into his room and did what he needed to do, i wouldnt even care.

March 9, 2008, 8:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryvius

Anyway, I'm not religious so my opinion on religion probably shouldn't be taken to far, but no I don't think so. The way I see it if god is real, then most of the bible isn't true. I mean whether god had a hand in it or not the bible was written by men, and I'm sure it's seen its share of creative editing. If there's a god, I just can't imagine he'd punish someone for fapping, or loving someone of a different race or same gender, or that he'd say any one race is better than the other...etc. etc. I don't think you could take any religious text at face value.

Homesexuality is wrong, and yet...the Israelites just luv'd them sum cousin marriage and having multiple wives and concubines, but God didn't say anything to them about that. I'd say that's a helluva lot more immoral than fapping.

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Originally Posted by Lirael

I don't really know what to believe in regards to this, but Roman Catholics would say he does. It goes against Natural Law, which is a basis for Catholic teaching. When one masturbates, they're using the sexual organs for pleasure, when their puspose is to reproduce. Any sexual act which does not lead to reproduction is seen as immoral, which is why they ban contraception. Of course, sex isn't immoral if you're just unsuccessful in regards to producing a kid. But masturbations a no no. It's all about self-indulgence.

So it's wrong to enjoy sex? Pfft, if it was meant solely as a reproduction method, god wouldn't have made it an enjoyable experience.

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Originally Posted by KourtneyVT09

I dont think you should watch pornagraphy. thats definatly a no-no, because its lust.

Whoops

March 9, 2008, 9:26 PM

Simple answer: we are all sinners, we are all going to die, there's no such thing as hell and everything we do will eventually lead us to sin. The just reward for sin is death, therefore why we will eventually die. We have already paid the price to be allowed to commit all the sins we might do, the only difference is that if we do sin and not repent for it, we will most likely end up being destroyed along with Satan and his minions on Judgment Day.

So yes, the new purpose of life after losing perfection, is ultimately to pay for our sins, the price being DEATH.

March 10, 2008, 12:34 PM

No, I just think the Church tell you mastrubation is wrong because they dont want anyone to feel pleasure in life. Its really if you believe in God, some dont, so really they can masterbate away.

But even if you do, why would God punish you for masturbating? You arent doing nothing wrong, you are bringing pleasure to yourself.

March 10, 2008, 12:48 PM

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

Let the heathen spill theirs
On the dusty ground.
God shall make them pay for
Each sperm that can't be found.

I'm sure he doesn't though (or I'm in for a helluva time!) because its just a natural bodily function. Besides it keeps singletons out of trouble n'whatnot.