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March 8, 2008, 9:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth's Brother
Actually, everytime you do it, its like killing a life i suppose you could say. Yes it may constantly be reproduced, but if you think about it, you still kill them when doing it. Thats why its in the bible im sure. (if it is)
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It wouldn't be in the bible for that reason at all I don't think. After masturbation you'd be less likely to have sex with your wife/husband and therefore, less children. All the religion wants is more children to carry on the religion. It wants to take over. And the only reason it would have the no sex before marriage thing is because you need a couple of good, happy people to take care of the little children, and then the people that made the religion want you to root constantly without protection and bam, you're more than likely going to end up with a heap of little catholics around or something.
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March 8, 2008, 9:46 PM
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It? Are we talking about religion here or a stephen King novel?
religion is not out to take over the world.
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After masturbation you'd be less likely to have sex with your wife/husband and therefore, less children
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like i said before if you are maturbating, you arent getting laid so you arent actually limiting the amount of children you could have.
Also the bible is written by people, and i doubt god saud to them masturbation is evil and you will burn in hell for it
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March 8, 2008, 9:57 PM
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It wouldn't be in the bible for that reason at all I don't think. After masturbation you'd be less likely to have sex with your wife/husband and therefore, less children. All the religion wants is more children to carry on the religion. It wants to take over.
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Um, I don't think that is the reason actually. Seph's Bro was more correct as a matter of fact. The catholic religion teaches that 'every sperm is sacred', and that every sperm is a potential life. The reason that they are against masturbation (and contraception) is because potential lives are being wasted, and not because you are 'less likely to have sex with your spouse' or to try and take over. |
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March 8, 2008, 10:01 PM
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They ignore the fact that nature can be wasteful, and inefficient, and that during sex, sperm gets wasted anyways.
Wasting something that's cheap to produce isn't exactly a big deal, and they just have the wrong concept of the worth of sperm.
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March 8, 2008, 10:04 PM
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They ignore the fact that nature can be wasteful, and inefficient, and that during sex, sperm gets wasted anyways.
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I wouldn't say that they ignore this fact, I mean, why do you think they are against contraception? Catholics and Christians believe that sex should only be for the purpose of making a child. Yes, even when making one thousands of sperm will still be wasted, but I guess it's the lesser of two evils. |
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March 8, 2008, 10:09 PM
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Then it seems they're against the idea of sex as a leisure, and think of it only as a means of procreation.
But if sex were not even at least pleasing, most people wouldn't even be interested in doing it.
Like Chesterfield says, "The pleasure is momentary, the position rediculous, and the expense damnable." And yet, the only reason most people do it is because of the pleasure, if nothing else.
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March 8, 2008, 10:12 PM
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Then it seems they're against the idea of sex as a leisure, and think of it only as a means of procreation.
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Yes, that is exactly right.
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But if sex were not even at least pleasing, most people wouldn't even be interested in doing it.
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It's to do with temptation, and resisting temptation. You know, choosing between good and easy.. Surely you know the Adam and Eve story? |
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March 8, 2008, 10:13 PM
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im pretty sure YHWH would, he seems a pretty vindictive kinda god.
as for a christian god i doubt he would, hell different denominations would have different views, so you need to specify, which 'god' you mean.
well as kev said, its not being wasted, and because you are masturbating it means you cant get laid anyway, which means it wouldnt matter
and pederasty and things like that would probably get you into more trouble with the deity you believe in.
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Christian God + YHWH = Same God  but NOT Jesus.
Though the Catholic Church decided not to use the name based on the statement that we should "not use the name of the Lord in vein" or considering that name of God is too holy to be pronounced by our impure mouths.
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March 8, 2008, 10:15 PM
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surely you know that the serpent tricked eve into taking the apple, and is a way of justifying the way the bible treats women.
and sex is not just about pleasure or procreation, it can be about love, surely giving in to temptation is a lesser evil than not expressing love?
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yes they are the same god, but the old testament makes him out to be very different from the 'christian' god.
in essence they are the same, but they are viewed very differently
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i just bought FF7 : DOC and when i put it inside my PS2 my PS2 brust into fire
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LOL it had over 1 million members
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Last edited by Placebo : March 8, 2008 at 10:17 PM.
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