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| Religious Debate Debate about all your religious topics here. Please no flaming and respect others opinions. Same rules apply as the Mako Reactor. |
June 20, 2008, 8:23 AM
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i agree. maybe i went about this all wrong.maybe god is all loving but i don't believe that.
Last edited by Waytodawn : June 21, 2008 at 3:08 AM.
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June 20, 2008, 8:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Guardia
When Adam and Eve ate the apple?
But i was also once told that Adam and Eve's story was an inspired tales by the Babylonians....
Whatever it is, my opinion is everyone's actually born good, its the influence we face in life that will cause us to sin.
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That is how sin makes its way into us. Our experiences, including what we see and what we hear, are what causes sin to enter. |
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June 20, 2008, 9:09 AM
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Junior is right, we are all born with sin. And we will sin, it's inevitable, "let he who is without sin cast the first stone", as no one is without sin no one should start a fight.
In order to be accepted into heaven we must repent our sins and seek absolution.
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June 20, 2008, 12:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vince Noir
Junior is right, we are all born with sin. And we will sin, it's inevitable, "let he who is without sin cast the first stone", as no one is without sin no one should start a fight.
In order to be accepted into heaven we must repent our sins and seek absolution.
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This is coupled with Jesus coming to the Earth and dying for our sins. It's like since Adam and Eve became sinful, God felt he needed to do something to help us out. Jesus came to Earth and then saved us all.
The true path to heaven relies on the person being everything the bible tells you and only then will you be accepted into paradise.
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June 21, 2008, 4:10 AM
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To Kaidaku: That is your choice to believe it or not, but it is true for Christians. He is an all loving God.
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Originally Posted by Baralai Lionheart
This is coupled with Jesus coming to the Earth and dying for our sins. It's like since Adam and Eve became sinful, God felt he needed to do something to help us out. Jesus came to Earth and then saved us all.
The true path to heaven relies on the person being everything the bible tells you and only then will you be accepted into paradise.
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I agree. Nowhere does it say in the Bible we had to be perfect. It is impossible.
Last edited by The Messenger : June 21, 2008 at 4:14 AM.
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June 21, 2008, 4:13 AM
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^ Ye, total agreements on that one.
If perfection was what we were supposed to achieve, i suppose there would be no sin already.
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June 21, 2008, 4:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Guardia
^ Ye, total agreements on that one.
If perfection was what we were supposed to achieve, i suppose there would be no sin already.
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Exactly, and if there was no sin, then the purpose of us being on this earth would not be existent, because we are all already perfect, so there is no need for us here. |
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June 25, 2008, 9:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Kaidaku
i agree. maybe i went about this all wrong.maybe god is all loving but i don't believe that.
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Or perhaps you simply do not want to believe that God is all-loving because there are some "sinful" lifestyles out there you just do not want to accept.
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Originally Posted by Baralai Lionheart
The true path to heaven relies on the person being everything the bible tells you and only then will you be accepted into paradise.
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But what you have just described IS perfection. The Bible tells you to do alot of things that are humanly impossible. The key is to try to do as much as IS humanly possible, and when you stumble, to ask God for forgiveness, then repent and try not to do it again. Jesus doesn't expect a person to never be able to covet a single time in his life, or to never wish harm on a person.
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Originally Posted by The Messenger
Exactly, and if there was no sin, then the purpose of us being on this earth would not be existent, because we are all already perfect, so there is no need for us here.
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Actually, God created Adam as perfect and gave him the task of watching over the animals. Then he created Eve as perfect so that Adam could have a human companion.
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Originally Posted by Genesis 2
15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.
16 And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden;
17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die." 18 The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."
19 Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name.
20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field. But for Adam no suitable helper was found.
21 So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man's ribs and closed up the place with flesh.
22 Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
23 The man said,
"This is now bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called 'woman,'
for she was taken out of man."
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So um, even when man was originally created as a perfect being, he had a purpose. Nice try, though.
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I thought children took after their mother's names? I dunno anything anymore, or I'm just wedding retarded. D:
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June 25, 2008, 9:11 AM
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I say if God truly accepts everyone he would accept homo and bisexuals.
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July 4, 2008, 9:41 PM
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