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No I don't. I never have and never will. I have this problem with fallowing too many rules. This so called 'god' has to many rules I personally think. I mean come on now. No one can fallow those rules perfectly.
I personally think 'god' was created to put fear into people. People back then are how they are now. Some don't listen, some listen, and some only listen to certain rules. This is a scare tactic the churches tried to use way back in the day....Lets tell them they will suffer after they die if they don't listen to us. That should get them to listen to our laws then.
Anyways I don;t think there is anything after death but silence. So why believe in a 'god'?
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^To each his own, i would say.
Well, in contrast, i do believe in God, and quite strongly too. Several times in desperate situations have i prayed sincerely. And salvation came in the form of some sort of help.
Truly, I probably wouldn't be here if there weren't God to save me back then.
And, in contrast again. I would think God's presence is to give hope to people, rather than to strike fear. They usually pray to Him, yes? In a sense, its like asking for hope, salvation... etc.
As to what there is after death? Well, i don't intend to find out so soon. Not now, at least.
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But, why be close-minded about His existence?
I don't think we have tackled that particular question yet.
Why shun and/or fight every opinion that may suggest otherwise?
There isn't quite a problem with that, but the problem is if you believe in something without proving it or verifying it, you must admit there is some ignorance in the fact that you could be believing something that could quite possibly be false. Then, you also have to admit that it's not logical to believe in something as being 100% true even though you do not know that to be the case. If, after having made these considerations, you still choose to believe in such things, then that is a choice you may wish to make, but there are others who would not make such a choice, and you cannot call people close-minded for not choosing to believe in something that isn't verified.
However, there is nothing that can be said about unconfirmed possibilities. They are simply inconclusive, and it is left up to the individual to decide for themselves whether or not they want to believe it. I am of the opinion that it is most logical not to believe in things that are unconfirmed. So I choose not to believe.
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No I don't. I never have and never will. I have this problem with fallowing too many rules. This so called 'god' has to many rules I personally think. I mean come on now. No one can fallow those rules perfectly.
You can't follow a contradiction--it's logically impossible. And God contradicts himself a lot.
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I used to attend church as a kid, but even then I always had the doubt in my mind that god existed. I'm a skeptic by nature. As stated, I also believe god was just created by man, in order to give people morals so they wouldn't just run around killing each other, that combined with the natural fear of death, they found comfort in making up some kind of paradise you go to if you live a good life after you die.
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I believe that there is a more powerful life form some where or that there is more than one here one of my religeous theorys, and i am a very religeous.:
god is a child or an adult in a universe much bigger than ours and probably more advanced than our to. but they have a god too ( called god ) and our god doesn't know that we call him god and this will keep on going on and on and on, these alternate universes will all be different from each other and gods will be depicted differently from our and, well thats it realy.
to answer the origional question is yes i do believe in god
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Not a Christian god no, or a singular god. I believe in a few god’s and goddesses, however there are people in my religion who don’t believe in any (even though they don’t believe in them they still hold troth as if they did), as my faith is more reliant on our existence here and what we see, touch and what we do (how we interact with people and the world around us). In fact there are many in my faith that disagree with the word religion to describe Asatru as its more of a world view.
I tend to agree with most atheists on thing like: religion shouldn’t have much of a role (if any) in school, government and such things and as a scientist I am completely against its involvement in science.
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I don't really think there is a god, I just don't have time to think about it. But each to their own right? If people do believe in god then thats their belief, but I just don't think there is any proof that he exists.
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If God doesn't exist, we wouldn't have stuff like this... and since we do, i can safely presume there is in fact a higher power looking out for us; other than Bill O'Reilly of course.