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June 12, 2008, 8:53 PM
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Wow, that is the saddest thing I've ever heard, so this is what people believe?
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Yeah, That's what we believe. you know what I think is sad? That you believe a huge man in the sky exists and created everything you see around you.
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You think some cosmetic dust or some scientific crap like that formed and created what is known as Earth?
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Cosmetic? as in makeup? like eyeshadow glitter created everything? no wonder you think we are nuts, if you think that we believe makeup created the universe
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Not meaning disrespect, you are free to believe what you will, but I don't believe it's all everything-science.
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Well you kinda disrespected all nonbelievers when you said what we believe is sad.
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I understand that at times, when one tries to convince others of something, when it come to religion, it can get pretty ugly, and I don't want any trouble, so if you people won't be at all open minded to other possibilities other than just what you believe, so be it, it seems no one will be changing their minds, I just hate to think of what awaits...
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You mean when we go to your fake hell and you go to your fake heaven? Okay then. Have fun.
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June 12, 2008, 9:01 PM
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I believe in god for my own reasons because there are lots of things I don't agree with in the bible and whatever the Pope has to say. But I have to believe in an afterlife due to the fact that three of my grandparents are dead and I couldn't stand knowing that they're just gone! It makes sense to me if there's an afterlife  |
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June 12, 2008, 11:56 PM
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I have to get this out of my system:
A few pages back I read the words "Eragon", "well written", "inspiring" and "logical" in the same paragraph. HA! Oh, that tickled me.
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I do not believe in God. I cannot prove or disprove the existence of God (I'm open minded enough to consider the possibility of a Higher Power), but I simply cannot believe in God.
Mostly because of all the hypocrisy in the Bible; discrimination, murder, hate, blah blah blah. I also hate religion because of Fred Phelps 
Also, I cannot believe in God because of personal things that have happened in my life.
This whole "Heaven and Hell" business is utter tripe in my opinion. It's nice to think that there's a nice place to go to once I die, but realistically, we just don't know. It's a bit typical to antagonize the Devil and make the whole "YOU SHALL BE DAMNED IN THE FIRES OF HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY" thing out of proportion. I have a whole paragraph I could write about how the Devil's story is a load of nonsense.
Hell, if I'm wrong, I don't really give a damn. By religious standards I know I'm going to Hell, but I don't care. Heathen and Proud.
I'm not the stereotypical Atheist who will refuse others opinions and will dismiss others beliefs. I'm open minded and like a good discussion.
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June 13, 2008, 7:01 PM
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What, pray tell, does this have to do with this thread?
But there's a difference between wanting something to happen and something making sense. Just because you want something to happen doesn't mean it makes sense; the two are independent events.
I suspect people confuse wanting something to happen and something making sense easily because it makes them happy.
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June 15, 2008, 11:34 AM
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Was that aimed at me? =\ If so, I guess I did go a little off-topic.
I just cannot believe in God. It's down to my own choice really. It defies my logic and reasoning to depend on and give my life to a Supernatural cause that may well not exist. Just comes down to my lack of faith.
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The future of the FF series lies not with the fans, nor the quality of it's graphics, music or storyline. It rests with them finally firing Nomura.
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June 15, 2008, 11:59 AM
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For many generations, people of Earth believed in a stronger force. Miracles happen everyday. As we pray for something to happen, if we have enaugh faith it happens. Where do we go after death is a different thing.
But I have a question. What is beyond our universe? God?
I strongly believe in God but not in religious way like being Catholic or Buddhist. In my own way I worship God.
Everything you see around you is a creation. No matter how small, it couldn't have evolved by itself. There must be something that decides time on our universe. When we die, when we're born. When we find our true selves.
It's not one God, it's not two and it's not a billion. God is everything. Those who say that God doesn't exist, are saying that our world doesn't exist.
What if there is more life in this eternity than we think? What if the smallest bacteria holds another universe, with more galaxies and other planets? Our mission as humans is still unknown but we try to discover day by day. Some poeple think that life is all but a dream, while others may see it as the never ending journey.
Look at animals. Do they seem to care about God? No, they just live their lives as they are supposed to.
I'm not saying we should be obsessed with God, I'm saying we should live our lives peacefully like we are meant to.
Those who don't believe in God are just ignorant. They always need proof about God's existence. One person should simply feel He's near.
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June 15, 2008, 2:49 PM
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For many generations, people of Earth believed in a stronger force. Miracles happen everyday. As we pray for something to happen, if we have enaugh faith it happens. Where do we go after death is a different thing.
But I have a question. What is beyond our universe? God?
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Where you see miracles I see freak occurrences. It really depends on what you would class as a miracle. If you're talking about a quadriplegic getting up and running around then yeah, I can see how some people would see that as an act of God, but to me things like that are just lucky. I'm not saying it's entirely possible for a quadriplegic to get up and start running around, of course...
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I strongly believe in God but not in religious way like being Catholic or Buddhist. In my own way I worship God.
Everything you see around you is a creation. No matter how small, it couldn't have evolved by itself. There must be something that decides time on our universe. When we die, when we're born. When we find our true selves.
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Things evolve by themselves all the time. Whenever you've seen a seed grow into a giant sunflower, or watched a virus spread under a microscope. In their own ways these could be classed as evolution. Stages of independant growth.
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It's not one God, it's not two and it's not a billion. God is everything. Those who say that God doesn't exist, are saying that our world doesn't exist.
What if there is more life in this eternity than we think? What if the smallest bacteria holds another universe, with more galaxies and other planets? Our mission as humans is still unknown but we try to discover day by day. Some poeple think that life is all but a dream, while others may see it as the never ending journey.
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If there was life on other planets inside bacteria then would it not be writen in the bible that God created more than one race? Why are dinosaurs not mentioned in the bible? Because the devil put those bones in the ground to test your faith? Please...
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Look at animals. Do they seem to care about God? No, they just live their lives as they are supposed to.
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Of course, because animals lack the mental capacity to dream such dreams of creation and invisible men in the sky. In a manner of speaking: They don't care why the food is there. They don't care who put it there. They simply eat.
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I'm not saying we should be obsessed with God, I'm saying we should live our lives peacefully like we are meant to.
Those who don't believe in God are just ignorant. They always need proof about God's existence. One person should simply feel He's near.
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I nearly laughed my face off. If your idea of ignorance is someone who wants proof then you are the ignorant one. Not believing in something does not make you ignorant. Wanting to believe in something so badly that you refuse to hear other beliefs is true ignorance.
Remember that just because you believe in something does not make it real, and passing judgement upon someone for not sharing your beliefs is ignorance indeed.
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June 15, 2008, 6:12 PM
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Was that aimed at me? =\ If so, I guess I did go a little off-topic.
I just cannot believe in God. It's down to my own choice really. It defies my logic and reasoning to depend on and give my life to a Supernatural cause that may well not exist. Just comes down to my lack of faith.
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I missed your edit, so sorry about that, but I was asking specifically about the Eragon quote you put in there. But now that's not really necessary, but I still would like to know what you meant when you posted it.
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Laro♪[/b]]
For many generations, people of Earth believed in a stronger force. Miracles happen everyday. As we pray for something to happen, if we have enaugh faith it happens. Where do we go after death is a different thing.
But I have a question. What is beyond our universe? God?
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In reality, natural occurrences do not depend on how many people have faith in something. Many people, particularly in the Western world believed the Earth was flat, but this did not affect the fact that it wasn't. I, and probably the other scientists don't necessarily profess to know what is beyond the universe--but at least we won't say it's God without any kind of evidence. It could be anything.
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I strongly believe in God but not in religious way like being Catholic or Buddhist. In my own way I worship God.
Everything you see around you is a creation. No matter how small, it couldn't have evolved by itself. There must be something that decides time on our universe. When we die, when we're born. When we find our true selves.
It's not one God, it's not two and it's not a billion. God is everything. Those who say that God doesn't exist, are saying that our world doesn't exist.
What if there is more life in this eternity than we think? What if the smallest bacteria holds another universe, with more galaxies and other planets? Our mission as humans is still unknown but we try to discover day by day. Some poeple think that life is all but a dream, while others may see it as the never ending journey.
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That just sounds like a metaphor for a set that consists of everything and labelling it God, which is redundant in my opinion, but if it makes you happy to believe that this God exists, you're welcome to do so. And bacteria can metaphorically be considered their own universes. They just don't consist of planets and stars like the "real" galaxy, but other substances like molecules and other chemicals.
But I prefer life as it is with no need to sugar coat it with any kind of metaphor. It just confuses the truth in my opinion.
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Look at animals. Do they seem to care about God? No, they just live their lives as they are supposed to.
I'm not saying we should be obsessed with God, I'm saying we should live our lives peacefully like we are meant to.
Those who don't believe in God are just ignorant. They always need proof about God's existence. One person should simply feel He's near.
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So animals are ignorant too. Why is it we have to care about God, and they don't have to? We need proof or evidence that God exists, otherwise the claim that God exists fails. And you can't prove a negative. We made no such claim that God exists, and have no need to prove it.
I also do not like being told what I should feel. I do not "feel" this God because my five senses do not indicate that such a being exists, nor do I feel it in my mind. If I did, I would be lying to myself because it's not rational to believe in things for which there is no evidence, and I only feel it because I want to. |
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June 15, 2008, 7:50 PM
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