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March 24, 2007, 12:13 AM
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ppl call it faith and does it really matter if there is one or not if ure livin life u decide but me yeah i do
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March 24, 2007, 12:14 AM
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Why do u belive in God. Do you belive in the bible.
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March 24, 2007, 12:16 AM
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I believe in God. It's a matter of faith. Not anything else. You can't prove it. It doesn't even need to be. It's a matter of faith. If you don't have any, then don't worry about it. If you do, then you know there is, and you're already ten steps ahead. I find it incredibly ironic that the people that question "is there a God" so often are the people who don't believe. lol Because for the people who believe, it's an incredibly stupid question and barely even deserves discussion.
On a sidenote, since this topic kinda of found the issue on its own, as it always does, I do believe in evolution. People who are against the theory of evolution have every right... but when people say that evolution contradicts the teachings of the bible, I completely disagree. I don't see it. If you want to pretend like you can diagnose the actions of God Himself, go right ahead and try. If you give me a feast, I'm gonna eat from the feast... not choke on the bones. lol So I really don't sweat the small stuff. They can both exist and there's probably more in the bible to suggest that evolution is probable than anything else.
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March 24, 2007, 12:18 AM
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that a long story y i believe in god but just know that i believe and no i havent really actually read the bible
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March 24, 2007, 12:20 AM
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but when people say that evolution contradicts the teachings of the bible, I completely disagree. I don't see it. If you want to pretend like you can diagnose the actions of God Himself, go right ahead and try. If you give me a feast, I'm gonna eat from the feast... not choke on the bones. lol So I really don't sweat the small stuff. They can both exist and there's probably more in the bible to suggest that evolution is probable than anything else.
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But the theory of evolution does go aginst the teaching of the bible. The bible say that god made us. and evoulton says that we envolved from something
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March 24, 2007, 12:24 AM
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lol How is that contradictory at all? God made everything. It says he made us but it says he made absolutely everything. If we evolved from something, whatever that something might have been, it's alright... he's the one that made it. So in turn, that means he made us too. There's absolutely no contradiction.
The only arguable point is the "timeline" in which it occured, which I really could care less about. It might have been symbolism, a misinterpretation, or that we had a real life version of FF8's time compression. lol Like I said in my last post, you can choke on the bones if you want. I'm not going to worry about the details of the "divine plan" because I'm not going to understand it on any level.
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March 24, 2007, 12:24 AM
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sigh. This is why I never get into these topics. I'm not trying to disprove or prove God. I said that in my second post. However, some things that are said that are thrown out as statements of proof must be corrected. Hence why I tried to explain the Aquinas and evolution thing. BTW, did anyone realize that it's always the believers that throw out the whole Ape thing and usually start the debate in the first place.
I forgot where I was going with this. I find it great that you guys believe in something. Especially Aztec's attitude is good. Don't try to sweat the small stuff.
But for for us non-believers in anything at the moment, I have to sweat the small stuff. I will say the thing that flusters me the most about the bible. Mythology vs the Bible. Both had some resemblance of real people. They are stories to explain the world. They've been around for a very very long time. Yet, the Bible gets more credit as a true religion. I think its because of the widespread marketing and advertising of Christianity that it is so powerful.
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March 24, 2007, 12:28 AM
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I have to say that this is a really good point. I never thought of it that way. Maybe when the bible said "God mad man" maybe it meant he made wat became man. Thanks
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March 24, 2007, 12:29 AM
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But the theory of evolution does go aginst the teaching of the bible. The bible say that god made us. and evoulton says that we envolved from something
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Let's use a little more simplistic example, to suggest otherwise.
A cow produces milk. Let's call the cow 'God' and the milk 'life' - so here, we have God, producing life and, essentially, everything we know. What happens with the milk? Well, after a while, microbes start to get to work and Cheese and Yoghurt can be made. We'll call this stage 'Evolution'. So, as you can see, we have God producing the basic unit of life, with microbes evolving that product - how can the process of a timeline contradict itself, if there is no conflict? You don't have to choose theories - why not use them both?
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March 24, 2007, 12:32 AM
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Are you discussing monotheism against polytheism... or just one religion against another? Because I'm Christian but it's definitely not the only monotheistic view in the world. In fact, it's not the only religious view in the world that supports Jesus Christ.
I'm easily Christian but I don't really count myself among any denomination. I simply don't care to brand myself to any particular group when we all have the same main view. God is what matters, not the people in the church. If you want my honest opinion, even though Jews don't believe that Jesus Christ was our lord and savior, I appreciate their religious beliefs over that of Catholicism any day. And I probably would take Muslim beliefs over either Judiasm or Catholicism. The reason for that is the core belief structure is the same in all of them. The only real difference between those four major western religions is that Catholicism just makes things up. Simple as that. Their traditions, customs, and even beliefs are things that are not even remotely recorded in any holy document... ever. Not to mention that Popes are probably the most corrupt thing on the face of the planet and have been since the Middle Ages.
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