The biblical account of creation, and the evolution scientists' version of how things came into being and then continually evolve -- "evolution" -- are indeed two very different things. However, we should be clear on the matter: To believe on one is to disbelieve the other. The Creator tells us in His Word of Life that everything was created after its own kind -- fishes, birds, creeping things, beasts and mankind -- in a matter of a few days. The theory of "evolution" seeks to convince us that mankind started in the "primordial slime" and, through a process involving millions, even billions of year, "evolved" to become what it is today -- a very sophisticated and intelligent order of beasts. According to the history we've been given in the Bible, the earth is approximately 6,000 years old, and mankind was created in the image of God.

You see, there is no having it both ways. As I see it, to believe in "evolution" requires an acceptance of a theory put together over the years by a group of people who have developed so-called scientific means of proving that theory. To believe in creation is to accept the Word of God.

Looking at the example of antibiotics/colds and viruses, given to prove the validity of the theory of "natural selection," my simple view is that of cause and effect. A cause may certainly effect a living organism, but any ability to adapt to the circumstances of that cause were built into that organism from the beginning of creation. God gave His creation the ability to cope with harsh circumstances and survive. Calling it "evolution" does not in any way alter the facts presented in God's Word.


When it comes to the evidence about what may or may not have happened thousands of years ago, the best we can do is make observations in the present. While it is appropriate to assign a higher degree of credibility to conclusions based upon good evidence, than conclusions based upon poor evidence or no evidence at all, we should not confuse even strong circumstancial evidence with the certainty that accompanies direct observation of a fact. Direct observation of a fact is the highest level of certainty that exists in the physical realm. Since none of us was there to observe the beginning of humankind with our own eyes, the evidence falls short of the highest degree of certainty.

You've been given your own mind. Come to your own conclusions. It's remarkable that most "evolutionists" with whom I've spoken are willing to scoff at the evidence presented for creationism, but are unwilling to acknowledge the fact that the evidence for evolution falls short of the highest degree of certainty. Many "evolution scientists" eagerly and rightfully point to the hypocrisy of charlatan (fake) religious leaders who hold themselves up as having all the answers. These same "evolution scientists" then suggest that we put blind faith in their answers. Examine everything for yourself. Come to your own conclusions.

Not all scientists believe in evolution. Not even close. Science means "to know." Any "scientist" who claims to fully know that which he cannot fully know disqualifies himself, by definition, as a scientist.

God's Word tells us we are fearfully and wonderfully made. It's amazing how the body can handle infection without a drop of medicine. Think about it. And yet, it was not the Father's desire that we should ever have to face sickness or death.

If Adam and Eve had not given in to the serpent's temptation to disobey God, sin and sickness would not have entered into the human race. Thankfully, the Creator -- being the Almighty God Who knows all things from beginning to end -- put a plan in place before He created this world. That plan was the Lamb slain to redeem (purchase us back) from the power of sin and darkness. Even as God placed the first couple outside the Garden of Eden, He promised a Redeemer would one day be born to mankind. Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is that Redeemer Who laid down His life so we might obtain life -- eternal. Through faith in this blessed exchange, we will enjoy eternity with our Heavenly Father, His precious Son Jesus Christ, and all who have followed and believed. Though it may sound like a fairytale to many who hear it, we must remind ourselves that unbelief does not change the truth into a lie.

It takes FAITH to BELIEVE anything or anyone. The question is: In WHAT or in WHOM do we place our FAITH? The Bible tells us . . .

"Now faith is the assurance (the confirmation, the title deed) of the things [we] hope for, being the proof of things [we] do not see and the conviction of their reality [faith perceiving as real fact what is not revealed to the senses]." (Hebrews 11:1, Amplified Version)

And furthermore: "But without faith it is impossible to please and be satisfactory to Him. For whoever would come near to God must [necessarily] believe that God exists and that He is the rewarder of those who earnestly and diligently seek Him [out]." (Hebrews 11:6, also Amplified Version)

The Apostle John and his fellow apostles believed in Jesus!

"From the very first day, we were there, taking it all in—we heard it with our own ears, saw it with our own eyes, verified it with our own hands. The Word of Life appeared right before our eyes; we saw it happen! And now we're telling you in most sober prose that what we witnessed was, incredibly, this: The infinite Life of God himself took shape before us. We saw it, we heard it, and now we're telling you so you can experience it along with us, this experience of communion with the Father and his Son, Jesus Christ. Our motive for writing is simply this: We want you to enjoy this, too. Your joy will double our joy!" (1 John 1:1-4, The Message)

I'm a believer. How about you?

We evolved from creatures that evolved from other creatures that evolved from bacteria that spawned in the primordial soup.
My knowledge of science isn't enough to expalin it all, of course, or I would have a Nobel Prize. I don't believe in the 'creation' theory at all.

Sorry to say this, but trying to prove, or even argue that the Earth is 6000 years old is ridiculous and impossible to prove. First, that very idea that Earth is 6000 years old is NOWHERE mentioned in the bible and is based on the archaic assumption that a "day" in Genesis is the same as a 24 hour day that we use to measure time today. In fact, lets look at those first few verses of Genesis, shall we?

<table><tbody><tr><td valign="top"> 001:001 </td><td>In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. </td></tr><tr><td valign="top"> 001:002</td><td>And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. </td></tr><tr><td valign="top"> 001:003</td><td>And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. </td></tr><tr><td valign="top"> 001:004</td><td>And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. </td></tr><tr><td valign="top"> 001:005</td><td>And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.</td></tr></tbody></table>
Now, if we're assuming that a "day" is the amount of time it takes the Earth to rotate on it's axis, this obviously could NOT have occurred on the first Earth-day since Earth wasn't created yet! A "day" in this case could be any arbitrary unit of measurement. What's to say each "day" here isn't a week long, a year long, or even a hundred million years long?

I'm not going to argue about the whole "creationism/evolution" debate here since we've heard the arguments a million times and it's impossible to "prove" either one. However, if you're going to argue that the Bible requires Christians to believe that the earth is 6000 years old, you are most certainly wrong, Xx Sir Auron Xx.

I find myself identifying with Warbourne here.

I believe in Creationism, yet there are some areas that do not match up with modern science. Evolution is the same way. For me, the first part of Genesis that talks about creation is true, as well as everything else that happened in the Bible.

Certain things like dinosaurs or carbon-dating may state now that creationism is wrong, but our science is really quite primitive. To put your whole belief in science right now, or ever, and shun any other theory is not a good move. Science changes as discoveries are made and long-held theories are junked.... perhaps is turns out that time is not a variable, but really is a constant!

I look at both theories as holding truth, but I choose not to place one over the other. We will likely never know which one is true, and it would be very ignorant of us to ignore the idea that the other theory is right. One must find a happy medium and hold judgment until more facts come in, and even then most facts are opinions based on observation and guessing, which could be wrong.

Hmmm, Indeed a Hard topic.

My Thoughts:

When it comes to A Higher Being creating the world, i seem to beleive it. That something had to start somewhere. Know what i mean? But then i argue with myself...if there was a God, or is a God....what came before him?, who created God? Was the Almighty just THERE, and said, "look, i want things", then made humans?-and whatnot.

My other thought, Hmmm, The belief in religion(i argue with myself) is it really about how things started???, or things got to live???, or is it a Hope of death?, do humans not want to accept the fact that we will all die and decompose into the earth. Or is it to argue how earth started, and loyalty to god?Hmm, sumthin to think about.

Yes God has always been here, I dont really get that either but when i ask my pastor or someone they always say, IT Takes Faith, and that is what i do, i put faith in what i belive in

So what is faith exactly? Because from your description it sounds like "faith" is just taking someone's word for something without a shred of evidence or reason. Sounds like a bit of a cop out to me.

I don't think you can reasonably prove any part creationaism (although I commend Xx Sir Auron xX for giving it a pretty good go). Sure there are some flaws with the theory of evolution, but theres about as many flaws with it as there are bits of truth with creationism (very few).

I think that to honestly believe creationism you have to be either very stupid (no offence to any who believe, this is just my opinion) or very determined to believe.

When moths start having darker wings to match the soot-covered trees of the world's most polluted cities, an evolutionist would say that we should clean up pollution to bring back the white winged moths, while a creationist would deny that the white winged moths ever existed and maintain that if God wanted different colored moths, he would change their colors himself.

That, my friend, is when they conflict.