Dawn Of War - Page 6

February 20, 2008, 12:11 PM

yeah me neither, i cant really go online with dawn of war right now either, im getting behind on college work right now and need to do it plus im never really in the mood to play games these days, i will do occasionally but not as much as i used to

Steam · March 15, 2008, 2:12 PM

Got Soulstorm and it's alright, the two new races seem pretty decent although most people online hate anyone playing the SoB because they think they'll use the Req bug. What has pissed me off is that the SM require the Sacred Artifact now to get the Grey Knights which pretty much stops my strategy of getting GK+Chaplain asap. Experimenting with Tau and IG now but I'm someone who isn't the best online early game with them so my win/loss ratio kinda sucks atm.

March 15, 2008, 2:32 PM

What sort of problems are you having with the T'au?

I tended to find that Orks give me the most trouble when playing as them, T'au being fragile, and going in where even the buildings are firing at you is a bit of a tough fight.

Guard I have no idea, I still need to try them ( and Orks and Necrons ) out properly.

March 15, 2008, 4:40 PM

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Got Soulstorm and it's alright, the two new races seem pretty decent although most people online hate anyone playing the SoB because they think they'll use the Req bug.

I am playing the Sisters of Battle in the campaign right now....what req bug are you talking about?

As for the game itself.....a little below my expectations....voices are garbage for the new races, SoB are so weak versus vehicles, the Penitent Engines shouldn't be limited to 2

, and the cannoness should move a little faster

. The whole air units thingie wasn't necessary....they should have sticked to bringing one new unit type to each race.

Eh....at least it's the same in skirnish....still love to stay one or two hours slaughtering xenos.

Steam · March 15, 2008, 7:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun And Steel

What sort of problems are you having with the T'au?

I tended to find that Orks give me the most trouble when playing as them, T'au being fragile, and going in where even the buildings are firing at you is a bit of a tough fight.

Guard I have no idea, I still need to try them ( and Orks and Necrons ) out properly.

With the Tau it's trying to come up with a good solid foundation in terms of build order and units to create. Of course every game will play out differently but for the first 5 min I can't think if concentrating on Kroot is the best way to go.

IG just suck and I've only seen a handful of good players online. I used to be pretty decent with them which is why I'm looking into using them again but the lack of decent troops just put me off.

Really the general problem is the start, I can't rush right and struggle against rush tactics.

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Originally Posted by Zanmato

I am playing the Sisters of Battle in the campaign right now....what req bug are you talking about?

As for the game itself.....a little below my expectations....voices are garbage for the new races, SoB are so weak versus vehicles, the Penitent Engines shouldn't be limited to 2

, and the cannoness should move a little faster

. The whole air units thingie wasn't necessary....they should have sticked to bringing one new unit type to each race.

Eh....at least it's the same in skirnish....still love to stay one or two hours slaughtering xenos.

The Req cheat is when you start to equip your Listening Posts with the Holy Relic then cancel the build, you'll receive an extra 40 Req on top of what you originally spent. Don't know if it works offline.

The aircraft do seem a bit pointless depending on your point of view. I've never really used them to any great extent but when it comes to taking them out I struggle. A Tau player earlier today completely fucked me over rushing me with 4 squads of Firewarriors, Tau Commander and 2 Barracudas and it was those two things that really took me out.

Coupled that one of my teammates pulled out just before the game was about to load meant that we had for our third member a comp player on easy/standard which made for a really one sided, unenjoyable and shit game.

March 15, 2008, 10:23 PM

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With the Tau it's trying to come up with a good solid foundation in terms of build order and units to create. Of course every game will play out differently but for the first 5 min I can't think if concentrating on Kroot is the best way to go.

At the very start of the match I've found that a build of Carnivores, Vespids and a Commander is a strong enough one to defend a base and win early scuffles. If you play your cards right ( and the opponent messes up ) you could actually push forward for a victory, but it won't work against every race. Jumping the Vespids into infantry and using their pulse skill ( forget its' name ) has awesome knockback effect. Add to that a Commander who could be in range just enough to start using his flamer then that adds to the breaking effect. If you're against a ranged army at the start then you might want to use Fire Warriors rather than Carnivores, just to give you that extra firepower from afar, covering the Vespids who can do a lot of disruption.

For a build order:

Builder makes Barracks and Generator.
Build two stealth suits, have them start capturing.
Research Jump Packs.
From Barracks: Carnivore ( or FW ) squad. And a Commander as soon as the generator is up.
From the HQ: Vespids.

It's quite a common build as far as I know, and it's been enough to keep me alive in earlier stages until now. My problem in battles is that I don't have the mental stamina to last if it starts getting drawn out, I start to make some very odd decisions indeed....

March 17, 2008, 3:33 PM

i'm planning on getting the new soul storm but right now my computers graphics card wont be able to handle it so im having to wait for a bit but as soon as i have it, im going to use the new armies and see what they are like and then im going to slaughter them with one of the older armies, just to take the piss

Steam · March 17, 2008, 10:02 PM

Cheers S&S, I'll have another shot with them as some point. Gone back to playing online on Dark Crusade now until the game is patched, just seems a bit unstable and the last few games have pissed me off to no end.

Had a couple of really fun games, one was a 2v2v2v2 game with me and my flatmate teaming up as IG. Was pretty damn good when when two guys as Necron and Chaos (Monolith and Bloodthirster included) were one one side and another IG bombarding us the other. Luckily two Baneblades kinda even the odds in those situations.

Last night one of my teamates lagged out 2 seconds after the start so it was 3v2. Luckily it was on QS (which I personally hate) so I just rushed one of the guys within 10 minutes with ASM, SM and a Force Commander and could have killed him off if one of his servitors didn't escape my grasp. We lost eventually after 35min but it was still pretty good fun.

March 22, 2008, 8:53 PM

I'm good with Chaos and Space Marines, but suck with all the others. (I only have the original and the first expansion.)
DoW is so badass, gotta love everything about it, except maybe the music in the first two at least.
Thing is, you have to play a particular way with each faction, and you have to stick to that. With Chaos, the best tactics involve attacking fiercely and quickly, and getting into really intense close combat. Long range defence is hard as Chaos, though. Space Marines are more rounded, but you have to make sure that squads are properly upgraded, etc.
Orks, well, I never got the hang of them; and Eldar are ok, but their armour is paper thin, it's unbelievable. I can play as them, but with some difficulty. Not too bad with imperial guard, but for some reason I find them difficult.

Nevertheless, it's very fun to play.

Steam · March 28, 2008, 2:39 AM

Dawn of War 2 confirmed. Oh fuck yes.

Details after the link.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=264868

Scans.