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Old May 19, 2008, 9:35 PM   #21
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It's on Wikipedia. Why would MJ lie about his surgeories anyway?
Vanity. Shame. Regret.

Of course, it also throws a spanner in the works into "it doesn't matter if you're black or white!" eh?
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Old May 19, 2008, 9:36 PM   #22
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Why yes I am a fan, and I don't trust any rubbish that those fecking sites say. It's not our business anyway.
The poor guy cried while an interview about this subject. Does he deserve this? Who started it?

I'm not attacking anyone by the way
Your love for this man is bordering ignorance now. It's almost totalitarian.

Is Michael Jackson not the man who called the world ignorant for believing the "lies" that surround him. You're being ignorant now, and whether you like it or not: You're just like all the people that you think "bash" Michael Jackson. You're ignorant because you obviously don't care to truly understand and respect other people's opinions of this man, whether or not false.

I understand and respect the fact that you are a big fan of Michael Jackson but now I'm struggling to understand why you started this thread.

Was it to gauge other people's opinions of this man? Or was it simply to flaunt your totalitarian affection for him?
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Old May 19, 2008, 9:37 PM   #23
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Regarding what? The incident where he let his kid hang out the window? I would have ignored the crowd, choosing to keep my child safely away from the window. I definitely wouldn't have let him dangle outside of it.

It's not as strange as much as it's stupid.
He did his fans a favour by showing his baby. The baby's feet were 'dangling' on the balcony for less that three seconds.
But I did wander why couldn't he just show it through the window instead of holding it in the air...
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Old May 19, 2008, 9:38 PM   #24
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I didn't say he was a saint. Besides, I don't think it's strange. What would you have done?
You don't think having your nose reworked so much that it's a fucking chisel is strange?

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Why yes I am a fan, and I don't trust any rubbish that those fecking sites say. It's not our business anyway.
The poor guy cried while an interview about this subject. Does he deserve this? Who started it?

I'm not attacking anyone by the way
*shakes head*

So you'll trust something on Wikipedia likely written by a fan as devoted as yourself, but not something from a legitimate news source? It's common knowledge that he's had plastic surgery. Being a fan is fine, but that doesn't mean you have to blindly ignore facts. Stephen Hoefflin is well-known as being Michael's regular surgeon.

He cried? Wow, did you ever stop and think that he was faking it? He is a performer, after all. People can cry on cue when they need to.
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Old May 19, 2008, 9:44 PM   #25
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He did his fans a favour by showing his baby. The baby's feet were 'dangling' on the balcony for less that three seconds.
But I did wander why couldn't he just show it through the window instead of holding it in the air...
He was probably concerned that the baby wasn't getting enough air. He had the kid's well-being in mind after all.

Except he forgot about air pollution! Bastard. Yeah, he should have just showed 'em the goods from behind the window. Or maybe...put his kid above his fans. I dunno.
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He did his fans a favour by showing his baby. The baby's feet were 'dangling' on the balcony for less that three seconds.
But I did wander why couldn't he just show it through the window instead of holding it in the air...
I'm sorry, being a mother here I have to ask...what??? Dangling his child out the window was doing his fans a favor? Right, I don't hardly think so. If I were famous and I wanted my fans to truly see my child, I would have just had a picture of him taken and put in a magazine or something. I'm sorry but your statement just makes no sense at all.

I don't know if I believe the allegations against Michael, good or bad, nor do I really care, but I know people wouldn't just dangle their babies out a window or over a balcony just to allow their fans to see them. That's just ridiculous.
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Old May 19, 2008, 11:24 PM   #27
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I like his music, and its not just because of that, that im not going to say anything bad about him. Who am I to accuse him of the thing they say he did, i dont know wether it really happened or not so it just wouldn't seem right saying that he did do it. I will admit that theres no way the color change was puberty though, thats just crazy.
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Old May 20, 2008, 12:51 AM   #28
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Nothing wrong with him as far as I care, well... He looks creepy, but that's forgivable.

Albeit, my friend and I do make fun of the whole molesting stuff a lot.
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Old May 20, 2008, 6:58 PM   #29
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in my opinion the media ruins a lot of celebrity images. sometimes even the fans, they're so infatuated with the celeb and want to know more and see more that it all ends up in chaos. i think that society forgets that famous people are humans who are prone to mistakes like everyone else.

other than that, MJ has made many great songs and will be an unforgettable music icon for decades to come ;D
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Old May 20, 2008, 8:56 PM   #30
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in my opinion the media ruins a lot of celebrity images.
IMO Michael ruined his own image. He started off a nice guy, then slowly evolved into a creepy, hideous warning of what too much plastic surgery does to people. I'm not even sure if he realizes that he looks so godawful, he's screwed up enough in the head.

Supposedly he's paid off people not to tell about his goings-on at Neverland Ranch, but with people also faking claims and setting their children up to get money out of it, it's hard to know what to believe. All the rumors really discredit him, but even without those...look at the fucking guy. Looks are a big part of anyone's image, especially a celebrity's...he's not exactly someone you want to put on a magazine cover. Kinda reminds me of what Pete Burns did to himself...only much worse.
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