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Birth by Sleep Serving as a prequel to the original title for PSP only, Birth by Sleep follows the stories of the three enigmatic characters, Terra, Aqua and Ventus and aims to explain more about the mysteries still left unanswered.

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Old June 4, 2008, 6:33 PM   #21
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Well why the conversation of Birth By Sleep is on...leaked trailer (bad quality, sorry).



Also, Square Enix president, Yoichi Wada has halted the development of all major mobile phone games which probably means KH:Coded as well.
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I'm curious. So does KHIII take place in the past o future. That old man looks like Ansem(using KHI name). Although I also heard the past and I can't really see that being the past. Also, what does Roxas have to do with this?
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I thought from the start they stated that the new game will be from the past. The first keyblade holders and all, giving reason on why Sora is one and all.
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But why Roxas then if these are the first Keyblade wielders? I thought Roxas was created as a Nobody when Sora became a heartless on KHI? How could he be born from Sora but exist beforehand too?

....So confusing...
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But why Roxas then if these are the first Keyblade wielders? I thought Roxas was created as a Nobody when Sora became a heartless on KHI? How could he be born from Sora but exist beforehand too?

....So confusing...
It's Ven that looks like Roxas...or is it?

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For the benefit of some people who don't know the characters from Birth by Sleep or what they look like:
Terra (guy standing up), Ven (being carried)
Aqua
Xehanort
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Confirmation of character names at the bottom of the interview
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After seeing the translated version of that video about 5 mins ago, my theory is that Ven IS Roxas. Roxas being a 'nobody' pretty much means that he doesn't really exist which is why he formed with Sora at the end of KH2. Soooo based on the trailer (also seen above) half way through 'Ven' doesn't recognize Xehanort and Xehanort asks him to "Give up! Now recover everything and discover the truth" which mean there must be some sort of link between them somehow....and then at the end of the trailer when 'Ven' asks Terra to "Erase him" (or maybe he wants Aqua to do it) which could link back to 'nobodies' being erased in KH2, Axel etc.
*Ven-Roxas theory*

Also, at the beginning of the trailer I feel as if at some point Terra has been convinced into thinking about going into darkness (much like Riku) as Xehanort says "I'm tired of waiting for you Terra" ,however, he must have changed his mind when Xehanort says "Those who submit to darkness and not qualified to wield the keyblade", therefore, although tempted to turn to the darkness eventually did not because Terra immediately says straight after "I don't care about being a master. This power. I use for my friends".
*Terra theory*

Finally, I also think that Xehanort has stolen Ven's heart or turned it into darkness as in the middle of the two scenes showing Xehanort/Terra when Xehanort asks "Give up! Now recover everything and discover the truth" he could be asking for his heart (which would turn him into a heartless, therefore, on Xehanort's side), as during the first scene of Xehanort/Terra...Terra says "Answer me Xehanort. What have you do to his heart!" Which could mean Terra had to defeat Ven first as during the second Xehanort/Terra scene he is holding a tried and seemingly defeated Ven.
*Xehanort/Ven theory*

Anyway, just theories based on the translated video of above. Therefore, I could change my mind and say is it really a prequel? HOWEVER, when Terra is on the beach, Destiny Island possibly? And he glimpses over to see two young children playing, Riku/Sora? Therefore, in my opinion a new theory would need to be based on events leading up to Kingdom Hearts I as those few seconds along could link it to being a prequel.
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Those are some really good theories, Merc. I'll be interested to see if any of them are anywhere close to the actual story - they do sound quite plausible and logical.
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Also, Square Enix president, Yoichi Wada has halted the development of all major mobile phone games which probably means KH:Coded as well.
I've been looking for such a video for a while. Unfortunately, my search continues - "this video is no longer available."
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Those are some really good theories, Merc. I'll be interested to see if any of them are anywhere close to the actual story - they do sound quite plausible and logical.

I've been looking for such a video for a while. Unfortunately, my search continues - "this video is no longer available."
Thanks

...sorry about the video, it looks as if they took it down once they uploaded the translated one. But here is that one and is in higher quality too!

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I wonder ... could Axel and Terra be related, somehow? Let's assume that you were right in saying Ven IS Roxas - he only has a different name. I've not developed a full theory yet but I'm leaning towards Terra actually being Axel.

Roxas and Axel were special Nobodies, in that they were both able to feel some form of compasion for the other - something uncharacteristic of a Nobody.

From the released content, we can see that Terra and Ven are friends. Assuming that Ven = Roxas, I'm guessing that Terra = Axel. If not that, could Axel be Terra's Nobody?

Of course, that leaves the "anagram with an added X" theme in a tizzy, but Naminé was special and she broke that pattern.
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Wow, thanks for the vid Kairi!

It'll probably be taken off in a few days though >__<

Anyways, looks like a few things have been cleared up by the gameplay at least; seems you can travel to others worlds like in the other KH games after all.

I recognize Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden, Destiny Islands, Colosseum...

Then there's a castle of some sort, a jungle type place (also Destiny Island?), and that Wasteland where that the battle takes place...

The graphics seem to be the same as the in game graphics of KH2; facial muscles seemed to move rather well.

Ven seems to have thicker eyelashes than Roxas, but over-all they both look the same; even the clothing is similar too, sans the armour parts at least.

Now, as for the story...

Why does the Xehanort want Terra to "cross wall between Darkness and Light"? And and which end is Terra already on?

"In order to obtain it, give up!" Give up what? Maybe it's similar to the Chain of Memories ideology where you give up something to gain something; maybe in this case it's also about memories?

Or he probably just wants Ven to give up in general

"Those who submit to darkness are not qualified to wield the keyblade!"

Hmm...that's an interesting line; since this is the past, you can't use Riku as a contrary to that statement, so who is it directed towards? Terra seems likely I think, given how he ends up

Well, looks like Xehanort tricked poor Ven since Terra's all pissed off over his buddy's heart

Terra doesn't want to be a "master" and Ven wants to be erased (as opposed to Roxas who wanted to keep existing).

Still don't know who that masked keyblade wielder is; maybe it's not a real person, just a manifestation of power?

Oooohhh, pissed off Mickey XD

Oh, oh! Yeah, I barely saw Riku and Sora, but they're so cute!

But I wonder if it'll explain more on how Kairi ended up on Destiny Islands; aside from arriving via the meteor storm from Radiant Garden, but there's more to it, yes?

And where's Aqua; how does she (it's a she, right?) get factored into the story

So over-all, I want BbS even more >__<

I have to start saving up for a PSP damn it
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