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Old April 18, 2007, 2:48 AM   #1
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Were Nobodies really that bad?

I mean seriously. All they wanted to do was build up kingdom hearts supposedly the souce of all hearts where hearts are born to regain existence. I mean i know they can't really have feelings and all but apparently Axel and Roxas felt some sort of emotion. And Saix (forum member) i remember him stating they couldn't feel pain well why was axel looking all tired after Saix (KH2) beat the crap outta him. I just don't get it really.
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Old April 18, 2007, 3:19 AM   #2
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yea the whole .. nobodies have no feeling didnt make sense then what would drive them to gain hearts.. the feeling of being incomplete .. am i right and all they did want was hearts but some of them did want more then that.. but i felt sorry for them..
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Old April 18, 2007, 12:50 PM   #3
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But then again I think Axel and Roxas were the only one's with pure intentions so maybe that's why Sora and co. hated them.
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Old April 18, 2007, 12:58 PM   #4
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Having no emotions doesn't mean they don't have the ability to have their bodies exhausted. SE never stated that Nobodies cannot tire, and we see that they can during the game. It's joy, compassion, hatred, and other similar things they cannot feel; not pain or exhaustion.



Now for the topic, I'm confused about the whole ordeal of stopping The Organization. All they wished was to truly exist; to feel. Much like Barbossa's quest to return all the Aztec Gold in Pirates of the Caribbean.
However, the obtaining of hearts clearly means something else.
Xemnas absorbed the hearts which were offered to him by Kingdom Hearts, and as such became extraordinarily power in comparison to his original self. I'm guessing becoming 'real' was the attaining of pure power. As Xemnas himself states:
"The Hearts is the source of all power"
Most likely indicating that Organization XIII wished to become God-like.



Not that any of them were far from it on Proud. XD
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Old April 18, 2007, 1:04 PM   #5
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Hmmmm.... i guess I see your point. I guess since Xemnas was the leader he represented the opinions of all Organization Members. It would have been entirely different if they were stealing the hearts from actual people.
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sort of... they only where hard in the begining of the game
but after that it was cool fighting them
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Old April 19, 2007, 12:04 AM   #7
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Nobodies Are Dead, They Have No Hearts In Them, So Yes Their Evil!!!
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Well, Namine (Kairi's Nobody) wasn't all that bad, she helped out alot.
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Old April 22, 2007, 8:12 PM   #9
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Well, Namine (Kairi's Nobody) wasn't all that bad, she helped out alot.
Oh I forgot about her, So only 2 nobodies are good and the reast are bad and when I say 2 I mean Roxas too
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Old April 24, 2007, 3:09 PM   #10
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I don't know, afterall, Roxas was in Organization XIII
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