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Kingdom Hearts II Discuss the game that is the followup to the PlayStation 2's Disney Interactive/Squaresoft Kingdom Hearts and its Game Boy Advance sequel KH: Chain of Memories. You can also discuss KHII: Final Mix as well, but please mark your topics accordingly.

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Old June 13, 2007, 8:56 AM   #1
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Cloud's Wing

Ok, I understand that KH is different from the FF serries, alternate reality or some shit... Anyway, Sephiroth is the One Winged Angel right? So what is with Cloud's one wing, I notice he has it in the KH game serries. What is the significance of his one wing? What does it have to do with sephiroth besides the fact that they are rivals? Is it because Sephiroth exist's only as a memory in Clouds head? I don't pretend to understand what it's all about, what say you all? What do you all think?
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Old June 13, 2007, 9:01 AM   #2
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I don't know the exact reason as to why they introduced Cloud with a wing, or even if there is an official reason, but I'd like to think they incorporated the physical addition as Cloud's relation to Sephiroth.

We see that, during the first game when fighting Cloud, that he enters a form of 'beserk' status. In this status his wing appears. Considering the aggression of his attacks during this point in the fight, I'd say it was Cloud's darker part taking over. Sephiroth himself states that (in KH2) he is the dark part of Cloud's mind, so it's probable that Cloud is either harnessing this darkness, or it's consuming him.


Eh, what a load of bullshit. xD I don't recall seeing it in the second game though. Stupid inconsistencies...
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Old June 13, 2007, 9:04 AM   #3
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Intresting...I never actually noticed when the wing first popped out, I just kinda noticed it one time, but never really thought about it untill now.
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Old June 13, 2007, 9:07 AM   #4
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He moves around somewhat fast in this form, so it's perfectly easy to miss. I noticed it on promotional art for the game a while back before playing it, then spotted its appearance in battle.




I wouldn't mind, but it's not even given a basic explanation in either game...
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Old June 15, 2007, 6:03 AM   #5
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Well probably because there was an extra wing left over, and it shows the bond between Sephiroth and Cloud... it is displayed well through the use of the wings
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Old June 18, 2007, 12:53 PM   #6
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I've realized that this one winged angel thing between cloud and sephiroth isn't really true. In fact, I believe that Genesis, from FF7 dirge of cerberus, is the other one winged angel, as he has one wing that sprouts from the opposite shoulder than Sephiroth's. But I could be wrong.

Anyways, my opinion is that Sephiroth is just bored nowadays. Look at him. He and Cloud are said to be "dancing amongst the worlds" in KH and KH2, but really all Sephiroth is doing is watching cloud and, occasionally, saving his ass. (KH2 moment, cloud and sephiroth meeting again for the first time) Even when they fight, Sephiroth is kinda blase' about it, until cloud glow golden.

My real opinion? Sephiroth is searching for something too.

Or that's just fan-boy crap.
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I don't know the exact reason as to why they introduced Cloud with a wing, or even if there is an official reason, but I'd like to think they incorporated the physical addition as Cloud's relation to Sephiroth.

We see that, during the first game when fighting Cloud, that he enters a form of 'beserk' status. In this status his wing appears. Considering the aggression of his attacks during this point in the fight, I'd say it was Cloud's darker part taking over. Sephiroth himself states that (in KH2) he is the dark part of Cloud's mind, so it's probable that Cloud is either harnessing this darkness, or it's consuming him.


Eh, what a load of bullshit. xD I don't recall seeing it in the second game though. Stupid inconsistencies...
The reason it dissapeared is probably that they changed his costume. It's a facinating theory, however.
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Old June 18, 2007, 12:56 PM   #8
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Yeah. Do you think they'll change it again for KH3?
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Yeah. Do you think they'll change it again for KH3?
Probably not. I think they'll stick with the Advent Children costume.
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If you notice, Sephioroth's costume changed as well, slightly.
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