Ive beaten him on a previous game, but im just curious what level is the recommended to beat him without to much trouble? I get him down so that he starts going red a lot, but his spore attack thing always gets me, his fireball attack to.

My levels go like this:

Vaan: 25(Hes always out, so hes like 4-5 lvls higher than everyone else) Weapon: Flametounge
Baltheir:20 Weapon: Heavy Lance
Fran:20 Weapon: Loxely Bow
Basch:20 Weapon: War Hammer
Ashe: 20 Weapon: Flametounge
Penelo: 20 Weapon: Crossbow
Larsa: 18

So uh, suggestions? Should i train more, do more marks or something? Although if i kept trying i could beat him, but he put Vaan to sleep at the start of the battle so i couldnt use the quickening when i needed to to wipe out another 10000 hp so he'd only have a sliver of HP left...

Although i suppose if i bought some remedies... Anyone know where i can buy some of those? Or anything that wakes someone up

Oh and im still trying to get better weapons for them, whenever i get around 6k i go to jahara and see if theres any good ones there (They have the best weapons at this point in the game, if theres better elsewhere PLEASE TELL ME)

Ok, i beat him, i updated the list with the stats that i beat him with.

If you have two Flametongues, that'll be of great use. For a comfortable win, I'd recommend training until your average party level was 25 at the least. You're not much underlevelled, so you should find it easy to train up for a while. It's particularly easy to do in this area if you use the Gladius (or any Wind-based weapons), as the Malboros are weak to Wind.

The only way from here that you can get better items is through Bazaar. Though, your current weapon set looks fine. I wouldn't worry about hitting much harder than you can, seeing as they're pretty decent weapons anyway (Flametongue in particular).

Remedies are... hard to come by. You're better off just using other items in its stead when you can. Elder Wyrm doesn't inflict you with anything too serious, so you should be okay. At least your HP will be kept at a reasonable amount. ;p


Just train up, basically. This fight's quite easy once you've got the levels behind you.

I beat him, and it was a massive pain. I would always have Vaan stay behind him when he used sporefall, and a lot of the time it wouldnt hit him, so he just used whatever he needed on them (Smelling salts for confuse ASAP so they didnt kill eachother, then eye drops, thats it really)

Lol, at the end i was in so much trouble, i was out of magic, larsa was dead, and EVERYONE was sapped. So my HP was dropping fast and i was just bashing him, and he died when Vaan had about 100 hp left, his max was about 1400 (Its 1600 now)

lvl 25 + should be ok, I suggest equipping rose corsages and that way you should be fine with an esuna gambit. Be sure to have atleast 2 or 3 quickenings so that your MP bar can sustain the esunas you'll cast. Stock up on quite some handkerchiefs and make a gambit for oiled characters as sporefall followed by fireball would be nasty without that. A good idea is making a gambit : character: any ==> protect.Larsa should be a big help in this battle with his healing.

Did you know that you dont have to fight the elder wyrm? You can take a different route so you dont have to fight him, you'll have to go through the feywood tho :p.