Sephiroth did everything mentally from the Northern Crater, it was he who controlled Jenova and shaped her body to look like him, or a clone if you so well. It was Sephiroth who manipulated Cloud to do almost kill Aeris and then single handedly hand him the Black Materia.

Sephiroth was the main catalyst that resulted in FF VII.

Bringing up the Kingdom Hearts Sephiroth is the most ridiculous notion ever, please refrain from KH Sephiroth, as that is not even the Cannon Sephiroth to begin with.

Opinions are better when served with some decent reasons to make a claim "insert character" is better. Now I don't mind it then, however if you just come to me staking the claim Kefka>Sephiroth because he's more evil and kills more sounds a hell of alot like fanboyism to me. Wether you may think I come as some elitist or whatever, at least look to the characters personality and what they bring to the table overall before making a judgement.

Btw, I have seen this Kefka bandwagon as well, I do infact know people who like him for reasons that can be justified, however what I don't agree with is ranking an antagonist simply because of Kill Count. Most great antagonist, infact some of the best antagonist ever created do not have a massive kill count, which is what I was pointing too.

If that doesn't change their opinion, then cool, but have more reason to you opinion which is what I am saying. Which is my statement of opinions not holding any water.

Vise Versa, but I guess some people like simplicity over complexity.

Kefka is from Final Fantasy VI I forget the Japanese number though >.>;; He is an awesome villian though. I'd put him above everybody except Sephiroth just for the fact that Sephiroth pretty much conned everybody without having to "actually" be there lol.

Thanx, ive just started that one up a few days ago, i didnt get far tho ...

I personally think that the whole Yevon thing was a fantastic con, i mean, they fooled the ENTIRE PLANET into trusting Yevon, and then we find out he is pure evil ... i think thats a good villain

And also with FFX, the fact that the monster Sin is Tidus's FATHER, it creates a kind of win-lose relationship between them, which leaves Tidus in a predicament dusnt it!

Apart from that, Sephiroth is probably the most evil, cept maybe Ultimecia, she was awful ....

People are really defending Kefka poorly, and TrueSephiros, I can understand why you as well as many others are generally aggravated when most people are simply claiming Kefka is awesome because he has a high kill count or better achieved his goals.

I like Kefka a great deal as a villain and I’ll explain myself in a civilized and coherent fashion. I find that Kefka actually has a great deal of depth when you look at him, especially at his final speech. For a great deal of the game Kefka is unrelentingly evil, seemingly inhuman in his detachment from the mayhem he is causing and even taking pleasure in it, however his mind set becomes crystal clear before the final fight.

"Why do people rebuild things they know are going to be destroyed? Why do people cling to life when they know they can't live forever? Think how meaningless each of your lives is!/Why do you build, knowing destruction is inevitable? Why do you yearn to live, knowing all things must die?" - Kefka Pallazo

Kefka proves himself to be the ultimate nihilist, a man after Nietzsche’s own heart. There is a certain cold logic in his argument, albeit twisted and disturbing from our point of view. He does have a point though, what is the point of living, it always ends in death? Joy will eventually lead to unhappiness one day, doesn’t hope make it all the more painful when our dreams are destroyed? These kinds of thoughts were prevalent in post World War I Europe, which the Gestahl Empire that Kefka grew up in takes more than a few influences from. We do not have to agree with his position to see that it is a position a person could have, and historically many have shared Kefka’s theory. (Hitler was a avid fan of Nietzche, as was many members of the Nazi party)

"Life... dreams... hope... Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things... I am going to destroy!" - Kefka Pallazo

Kefka is different from Sephiroth in that Sephiroth ultimately though he was making the world a better. Kefka on the other hand seems to be fed up with the contradictions of the world and would rather destroy all the hopes, dreams, and life on the planet by inflicting pain on the world. In many ways Kefka seems to be getting his revenge on a world that doesn’t make sense to him, like the columbine shooters or Charles Whitman, but instead of firing a rifle from a bell tower Kefka shoot his light of judgement from his own tower made of the remains of Vector, his former home.

Along these lines Kefka seems to be a rejection of the norms of society, not only in his nihilistic view of the world, but in his bawdy clothes, his face makeup, and his sardonic and sadistic sense of humor. Both Sephiroth and Kefka are a psychoanalyst’s dream (or nightmare) as their behaviors, dress, and final forms (which were remarkably similar I might add) hint towards much deeper problems.

Power-wise, I think that if Sephiroth had succeeded in his plan to absorb the life stream he would have become the same kind of entity Kefka was at the end of FFVI (the resemblance between their last two final forms is uncanny), as Kefka had essentially done the same thing by absorbing all the magic in the world. Also I would like to point out that absorbing the life stream was Sephiroth’s main goal, destroying all life was just a nice side effect from his method of achieving his goal, while Kefka became the source of all magic by disrupting the warring triad. Both were essentially the same goal that was going to be achieved through different means. Also I got the feeling that Kefka a toying with the world of ruin and its residents, he could have theoretically blasted every city with the light of judgement but instead he seemed more intent on keeping them in constant fear and depression. Even before the final battle he playfully tosses the party around before actually fighting them, and even as he is approaching death in his final form he feels the need to laugh at the party, almost as if he is having fun.

Which of them you like better, Kefka of Sephiroth, comes down to personal preference, both are extremely well made characters (just that you have to think about Kefka a little more) that share as many similarities has they have differences. Ultimately it boils down to this: Sephiroth was an optimist, believing to the end that all the pain and suffering he caused would eventually lead to a better world for him and his kind/mother; Kefka was Pessimist, believing that man and life itself was essentially a disgusting contradiction that he had to destroy.

Despite the fact that I like Kefka better I still find Sephiroth to be an intriguing video game character, albeit confusing during some of his later rants. I just thought that I should give some of you a different perspective on Kefka.

Quite honestly, I'm bored with the Sephiroth hype. I think it is more a question of relating more to other people when it comes to fandom. Just my opinion, my two cents. His concept art is nice, but later on I consider they surpassed it.

As for Kuja, he may not be the most rotten in the bunch, but I don't think he's a Seph knock off, and I'm personally not creeped out by his femme-appeal.

I think Kefka is the best villain, if not tied with or closely followed by Kuja. People sould give FF9 a chance and actually play it, rather than _____ about how the graphics are. Come to think of it, I haven't seen a valid explanation why people skip it. HELLO, FF10?

I just cant find it in me to finish IX due to the fact that I really dont want the story to end lol. But back on topic..

There are many points to be made on everyones behalf on their favorite villian, mine being Sephiroth for an ungodly reason in which I'll happily explain if asked. Neither can really justify a good point in which one beats ou the other without being closed minded about the other villians goals and achievements. So in a sense its not possible to have a villian of villians unless the villian is actually alive after the game is over and of course the villian is never defeated and the world ends, blah blah blah lol.

@UltimaFantasy2007,
Kuja is certainly a well developed and intelligent character, however in the end he essentially apologizes for everything he did before he died, which always rubbed me the wrong way; I prefer a villain who stick to their beliefs, even after they’ve been beaten severely. Worse is the fact that he isn’t even the final boss of the game, Mr. (SURPRISE!) Necron is. Also I think many people are put off by his metro sexual clothing and tendency to make poetic monologues at odd points during the narrative. Still he’s better than late-to-the-party villains Emperor Mateus, Cloud of Darkness, Zemus, Exdeath, Ultimecia, and most definitely Necron.