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Old October 11, 2007, 3:23 AM   #31
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Judgemental or not, when you have someone comming around talking about how Sephiroth has done "nothing" and is nowhere "near as good". It seems like I have to set the record straight.

Shoot, just look at all the pages, it was nothing about how well made Kefka was...which is umm...completely false. Yes, you are entitled to whom you like, but when you put it all down on paper as to who had more character, Kefka ranks as one of the worst within the FF series.
I think you may have missed the point of my post. I wasn't making light of your arguments for what Sephiroth has done and I disagree with those who say he did nothing. I was merely saying that telling someone their opinion "doesn't hold water" makes no sense. And it makes you come across as someone who doesn't give two shits about anyone's opinion but their own. You may not have thought Kefka was a great villain but other people do. Most of the people who have responded in this thread have played FF7, they've seen Sephiroth's accomplishments; some of them still don't think he's all that great. But that's their opinion and I doubt anything you say will change that.


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That doesn't mean overrated, that just means a lot of people like him. Sephiroth from what he's done within his storyline is not overrated whatsoever, so that's an invalid reason to claim he's overrated because he has a huge fanbase.
Again, this is all a matter of opinion. Sephiroth is an extremely popular character. Someone who doesn't like Sephiroth is of course going to think that he's overrated. Perhaps they weren't as impressed with his accomplishments and character as his fans.
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Old October 21, 2007, 4:46 PM   #32
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I got tired of reading one of Sephiroth fanboys posts so I came here to tell why he sucks and Kefka and Kuja rules.

Kuja already had really much powers. Sephiroth didnīt born with a masamune. No he was little baby who needed diapers to be changed. Kuja neednīt that, he already kick ass. He used his own powers to destroy his own world. Sephiroth loser needs help from meteor.

Oh and Sephiroth wasnīt first FF-villain to kill main characters. What happened to Richard in FFII? And what about Galuf?

And Kefka was ordinary man and his motives to destroy everythin was to gain power and he had show he has powers by destroying the world. In WoR everybody is sad, only two man are happy and they are Colosseum owner and Kefka. Kefka could have easily kill everybody but what fun that would have been. Sephiroth would have float in emptiness with his mama. Oh boy he sure is winner. Even FF-hero like Shadow would kill his mama only for a nickel.

Kefka is real bad guy. If he was real, I would be his follower. Come on now he was totally sick. He murdered his own men, poisoned innocent people and that was pleasure to him. Sephiroth didnīt like so much about killing, he just totally snapped and with help of psychiatrits he would have been fine. Kefka however was totally lunatic. Kefka is like evil twin of Sephiroth.

Sephiroth is not bad villain but Kefka and Kuja are better.
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Old October 23, 2007, 6:29 PM   #33
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Although I dont doubt Kefka's accomplishments, I still believe that Sephiroth out weights Kefka in all catergories. Yes Kefka accomplished what he set out to do in his game while Sephiroth didnt but that doesnt justify the statement for me.

While Sephiroth was alive...well everybody knows the story I suppose so I'll get to the point. Sephiroth didnt actually start becoming a villian and doing all the things he has/had done until after he died in Mt. Nibel's Mako Reactor. I've started going through the game and the script and I have yet to find any instance where he is actually alive and seen for more than one instance,(outside of Aeris' death, and even though he had killed him, I am looking for solid proof that it was his actual body that killed her and not a clone.) not including the sighting in Junon and Icicle Inn and any other place he may be seen at.

The Midgar Zolom death before the Mythril Cave isnt proof that Sephiroth is/was around and alive at that time because the Turks are also seen in the cave as well and they could have killed the Zolom before you got there.

My point that I'm saying is that Sephiroth accomplished so much while his body was immobilized/dead inside of the Northern Crater. Although Kefka did exactly what he said as I have already stated, he was ALIVE to do so. If Kefka had died before the actual games events had even started I dont think he would have been able to accomplish more than 1% of his goals.

Sephiroth manipulated the minds of people while his body was immobalized and his legacy lived on throughout the games entirety, even making it to other games as well, like Kingdom Heart and the upcoming Final Fantasy Dissidia. Kingdom Hearts is a good example of how powerful he really is, travelling through time and space looking for Cloud (Or could I say Cloud looking for him). So in a sense did he really fail what he set to achieve?

As Bugenhagen said, when life dies, it returns to the planet and is reborn as something anew. So even if Sephiroth did die before he destroyed the planet, did he not become one with the planet in a sense, and with that knowledge be able to be reborn as his own self many a time?

The legacy that is Sephiroth still amazes me to this day...sorry for the long post ;
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Old October 23, 2007, 6:39 PM   #34
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I always get it that Jenova is doing all the dirty work while real Sephiroth is frozen. I got the picture that Jenova was on the ship were you get Ifrit and Jenova was the on who killed Aeris in the form of Sephiroth.

And isnīt it kinda humiliating that Sephiroth gets beaten by boy who has not yet even reached puberty with the help of Donal Duck ( who IMO could beat Sephriroth easily, with Donalds temper) and Goofy. And in Dissidia it seems that Sephirot gets beaten by every FF-main hero they have.
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Old October 24, 2007, 4:22 AM   #35
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Although in Kingdom Hearts he did get beat by Sora, I consider Kingdom Hearts a game with alot of characters thrown in it for style and flair IMO. In Dissidia's case, unless new footage has been released, I have yet to see Sephiroth fighting anybody at all.
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Old October 24, 2007, 4:29 AM   #36
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Honestly I wouldn't count spin offs. Kingdom Hearts is a completely different game from Final Fantasy VII. Yes, Sephiroth was powerful in Kingdom Hearts because he was the hardest optional boss. Just a thing Square threw in for fans.
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Old October 24, 2007, 4:39 AM   #37
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And KH Sephiroth is a different Sephiroth altogether.
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Old October 24, 2007, 8:07 AM   #38
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Well you are right about KH- Sephiroth since every FF-character was only alternate dimension version of them except Auron whose story was connected to FFX.

And of course you can fight against Sephiroth in Dissidia or play with him. They donīt put him into game just to be seen.
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Old October 25, 2007, 1:14 AM   #39
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I am waiting to play Dissidia to see what they have done to Sephiroth. I'm going to assume that everyone will have almost on par abilities (although some characters will be nerfed to hell lol) but I will be upset if he doesnt beat ass at least a little bit.
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Old October 25, 2007, 8:54 PM   #40
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I reckon he'll be TEH UBER unlockable character. He'll just pwn everything, exept himself.
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