im pretty sure that jecht was more of a boos then yu yevon was since u cant lose to yu yevon its impossible since u have autolife. when u fought jecht u actually had to battle him strategically (for me i summoned like 5 aeons to beat him but watever )

More sephiroth fanboys... >.> you did notice Kefka DID accomplish what he set out to do, not attempt and fail... He completely scarred the face of the planet. And your sad sephiroth-sized attempt to narrow kefka's personality down to a joker/dbz villain wanna be...please... he is INSANE and not sephiroth insane, not a lets wipe out all life on the planet because you hurt-ed my mommy insane... and he DID achieve near-god powers... he just didnt wield a huge sword and have a spikey haired mute following him around...

As for the DBZ reference... dude, just the man shoots a large energy beam from his tower makes him a wannabe DBZ villain... thats reaching man... so then sabin is a wannabe DBZ hero... and pretty much anyone who wields magic falls under that heading, since DBZ does have energy auras, sparks of electricity... and if you wanna reach, Sephiroth does remind me of Frieza, with the whole blow up the world by smashing something into it, albiet Frieza was using a ball of energy and Sephiroth TRIED to use a ball of rock

The reason why I compared Kefka to a DBZ villain is because his personality fits the bill firmly. Pure Evil+Insanity+Powerful...what do you have after that? Really nothing? What has Kefka proved? That he's powerful, that he's evil?

How in the world does that judge him above someone like Sephiroth? Kefka's personality is so 1-dimensional, heck I could write a story about a villain who is Pure Evil is just insane and can go around wiping out an entire world.

The fact is, during Kefka's reign in FFVII, you know nothing about him, except he's just kills to kill, and that's quite it?

That to me is no different then comparing someone like Galactus to Magneto in the Marvel World.

Sure Galactus would destroy Magneto in everyway, however Magneto is an infinitely better antagonist because he has far more character, far more personality, and you get to see more of him a whole, and mind you, Magneto is far from being a Pure Evil I want to kill everything persona as well.

For Kefka, we see none of this, all we see, is just simply how "evil" he is...and evil doesn't push you very far in the line of antagonist in any way whatsoever. That is what is called Simple Evil, just look at the DBZ villains and look at Kefka again, they have extremely close similarities.

If we compared FirePower, then Ultimecia in the FF series has basically..umm..No Equal...yet, she was a horrible antagonist as well. Also, me a Fanboy...please, at least I have the notion to put the overall development of the character over how evil or how much power he packs.

Also, just so you know, Kefka and Kuja both failed, in the end, what matters is who's standing and who isn't. In the end, both have gone the way of the Dodo, if I wanted to, I could say, although Sephiroth has failed...he has come back...what about Kefka or Kuja? Obviously Sephiroths mentality>>>>>>>those two if he could achieve this right?

My point is, don't judge an antagonist and use "evil" + "Power" to completely judge an antagonist. Especially someone like Kefka who has no personality beyond the "I want to blow up this city!"

Even I could create a character like that within a whim.

Firstly, Sephiroth has No Control over the injection of Jenova cells. For crying out loud, he was an infant at the time. So what took place during these events, he had absolutely no control over.

Secondly, Sephiroth's achievements are highly, highly underestimated. Remember here, Kefka's achievements although grand, where not apocalyptic, meaning, that people where still able to survive afterwards, and still had a chance of hope to defeating him. In which they did, and mind you, this is Kefka at his upmost peak.

Sephiroth's achievement would have apocalyptic, meaning that had meteor of impacted. more than 70%+ life would've been wiped out from existence, the Lifestream tries to come and heal the plane of this wound, however it instead is consumed by Sephiroth. He then becomes a God, and creates, remember here, creates a New World and Life within his image.

Look at these two very distinct paths, in one end, the other is beatable at his peak, in the other end, there is no equal.

You have it where Sephiroth summons a meteor, not only that, but the Weapons are then summoned to defend the planet, and are now going across the entire planet on a rampage. Not only that, but the entire civilization on the world is going into mass panic and meltdown.

Then at the very end, when Meteor is going to destroy the planet, Holy comes into affect, and yet. At the end, Holy isn't enough, but not only do it take an extraordinary magic to take affect, but the entire lifestream from the planet in order to successfully destroy Meteor from annihilating the world.

So in the end, it not only took Cloud and the gang to try and stop Sephiroth, but it took a power beyond even their own control to finally put an end to Sephiroth's plan.

That is a far larger and far more dangerous scale, and this I guess is not a catastrophic enough situation for some of you people?

Mind you, that Sephiroth achieved all of this only doing this from a mentality standpoint from his position from the Northern Crater. That alone pushes him into the elite status.

He doesn't even move a single muscle and yet he sets into motion that would've doomed the entire world. That's what makes an antagonist even more dangerous, when he can achieve his goals without even resorting to pyhsically doing it him/herself, not to mention he is never dead, which shows another sign of his character, even without a true body, he can still wreck havoc, since he has not died, so his persona still lingers and can always be a threat regardless.

So how is Sephiroth an underdog? You ask me that, his achievements are mind boggling, and yet he cannot die and can still potentially still achieve his goal. Those are my reasons exactly, he is completely underrated by some of you people, since he was never overrated to begin with.

Kuja would have destroyed the existence of all existence ... I think that trumps "apocalyptic".

Didn't Kefka actually "Ruin" the world? How is that not apocalyptic? :\