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April 28, 2008, 1:01 PM
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Oh man, when you tell me my opinion is wrong, kinda reminds me of a comment someone made in another FFXII thread about how my opinion was wrong. I lol'd. Hard.
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April 28, 2008, 1:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Iago
Learn to differentiate between voice actors and characters, because the bland stupid pathetic useless characters of FFXII are nowhere near as good as the characters of X.
The story for XII was not as entertaining or exciting as that of X, the story just wasn't as good. And please don't say 'but XII is more mature' because it isn't, having a story which is slightly political isn't mature.
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I know the difference between voice actors and characters, hey my favorite VA is in FFX (John Dimaggio). I just donīt agree with the way some X characters see things and they are not appealing me at all. Tidus is stupid crybaby who cannot accept things as they are, he just complains about everything. Auron thinks being supermystery helps their cause. Lulu is too cold towards Wakka.
XII has great characters like Balthier, Fran, Reddas, Larsa,Al-Cid,Cid and Bagamnan or whatever was that lizard-guys name. And I like more XII type worlds than X.
Yes licence board has shitty abilities, sphere grid has shitty abilities and hey every FF-game has stupid useless abilities you donīt ever need. I mean who uses "sleep" and "confusion" attacks?
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April 28, 2008, 1:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapplenipple
I know the difference between voice actors and characters, hey my favorite VA is in FFX (John Dimaggio). I just donīt agree with the way some X characters see things and they are not appealing me at all. Tidus is stupid crybaby who cannot accept things as they are, he just complains about everything. Auron thinks being supermystery helps their cause. Lulu is too cold towards Wakka.
XII has great characters like Balthier, Fran, Reddas, Larsa,Al-Cid,Cid and Bagamnan or whatever was that lizard-guys name. And I like more XII type worlds than X.
Yes licence board has shitty abilities, sphere grid has shitty abilities and hey every FF-game has stupid useless abilities you donīt ever need. I mean who uses "sleep" and "confusion" attacks?
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There's a whole thread dedicated to the usefulness of sleep. also confusion is cool status to inflict on enemies,as they damage themselves and loose a turn.
How is Tidus a stupid crybaby?He is dream ergo he isn't real, yet he realises this. Does he cry or complain? No he accepts it and he trys to comfort Yuna, even though he is about to stop existing.
Being supermystery? LOLWUT?
He is dead and doesn't want to disillusion the others about Yevon.
Lulu's lover died, she is allowed to be cold. Furthermore everytim she sees wakka she is reminded of chappu, and can't help but constantly compare them.
Also you not agreeing with characters doesn't make them bad.
How is Al-Cid great? He does nothing except show up and talk in a stupid accent.
Reddas is a gloryfied Pirate.
Fran is rabbit
Balthier is decent.
Bagamnam dies in the sandsea.
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April 28, 2008, 6:50 PM
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I got a good chuckle out of reading this lot
It annoys me when people bash the characters from X, they are probably some of the most "real" characters I've seen in all the FFs I've played. Tidus might be annoying sometimes, but he's a teenager, and at the beginning we are led to believe he was thrown randomly into this new world he doesn't understand. I think many 17 year olds would find that hard to take, and would kick off and whine just like he did. It's realistic. Also he grew up a lot throughout that game, and as Iago said, when he finally learned the truth about his existence, he accepted it and didn't whine, he dedicated himself to saving Yuna and Spira. Grrrr Tidus rant
But back onto the topic, I did feel that although there was more flexibility with the license board in FFXII, it was really big and there were lots of pointless licences. Almost everything you learned in X had a point- even the status-inflicting abilities also did damage (Wakka anyone? He ruled), so if they didn't work you still got something out of using them. The status effects in FXII were very useful, but if they missed, you felt like you'd wasted your time casting them.
Both these games seemed to have the most level grinding for me, they are equal in that respect, you had to work hard. But I felt personally that with X there was more of a sense of achievement when you got the key spheres and unlocked the high level abilities. Plus they seemed to do more damage- Ultima was an amazing spell, whereas Scathe in FFXII was so-so, I could have done without the immense amount of time it took to cast that spell only for it to do as much damage as Scourge. Same with Holy, the Holy on X did a lot more damage (and looked more impressive  )
I do really like FFXII, but X was much better for me IMO
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April 28, 2008, 6:59 PM
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Iago...
I suggest you play Revenant Wings. You'll soon find out why I suggested this 
And ssh about Reddas. That guy was badass.
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April 28, 2008, 9:08 PM
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I donīt get it why is it so horrible than Fran is bunny.
If I bad mouthed Kimahri for being hornless big cat you defend him calling him very well designed character who has lot of depht.
And so what if Bagamnan dies? Tidus fucking dies too and so does Auron.
It took forever to Tidus come more sensible, he is over 80% main story time very annoying arrogant brad. So if everybody dies around you, you are allowed to be bitch and then kill everyone. Yeah I think not, Lulu has no real reason to treat Wakka shitty.
Both Licence board and Sphere Grid are both pretty weak leveling systems, I-IX has a lot better ones.
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April 29, 2008, 6:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Pineapplenipple
I donīt get it why is it so horrible than Fran is bunny.
If I bad mouthed Kimahri for being hornless big cat you defend him calling him very well designed character who has lot of depht.
And so what if Bagamnan dies? Tidus fucking dies too and so does Auron.
It took forever to Tidus come more sensible, he is over 80% main story time very annoying arrogant brad. So if everybody dies around you, you are allowed to be bitch and then kill everyone. Yeah I think not, Lulu has no real reason to treat Wakka shitty.
Both Licence board and Sphere Grid are both pretty weak leveling systems, I-IX has a lot better ones.
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You said fran was a good character, I never said anything about Kimahri.
It doesn't matter that you think not, I already provided you with reasons why she is like she is. It's not my fault that you ignore them.
Btw what is a brad? Since you obviously just counter everything I say with "SO FUCKING WAHT BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW I CANT SPEAK ENGLISH" There's little point you carrying on posting.
Does anyone else remeber the bit where Lulu kills everyone? I think not (did u see waht i did thar?)
Lulu isn't a bright happy person, but not everyone is, people have different personalities. Although personalities is something that characters from XII don't have.
I personally like the sphere grid, you may not. However, the fact that you obviously don't know what you are talking about rather voids your opinion.
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April 29, 2008, 8:46 AM
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I found personalities in each of the characters. I can't really understand why people say they don't.
Anyway, seeing as noone seemed to notice my previous post...
Warning - Do NOT read unless you have finished FFXII, including the Bagamnan hunt.
Ba Gamnan is NOT dead, he stays in your party for a while in RW, until he breaks free
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April 29, 2008, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Judge Rulia
I found personalities in each of the characters. I can't really understand why people say they don't.
Anyway, seeing as noone seemed to notice my previous post...
Warning - Do NOT read unless you have finished FFXII, including the Bagamnan hunt.
Ba Gamnan is NOT dead, he stays in your party for a while in RW, until he breaks free
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I noticed it, you're not unappreciated
I just don't have RW.
Penelo doesn't have a personality.
Vaan doesn't have a proper personality, he just wants to adventure.
Ashe is whiny
Balthier is cocky yet mysterious ( what a fucking cliche!)
Fran talks funny and has knowledge of magicite, and on occasion goes batshit insane.
Basch is the stupid moron who would gladly die for Ashe (another cliche)
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i just bought FF7 : DOC and when i put it inside my PS2 my PS2 brust into fire
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