Tetsuya Nomura - Your Thoughts? - Page 7

April 14, 2008, 7:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Colonel Volgin

You don't seem any better.

Face it, if Nomura hadn't been the character designer for VII, then what?

Ermmm, I don't think it would matter. VII was revolutionary for it's time because techology and graphics was outstanding. There was no other game like it. There are other elements besides the character designs, they're only the tip of the iceberg.

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The PS1 FFs might not all be great in your opinion, either, but I'll warrant that Nomura's designs are part of what made them so successful.

Yes and Nomura did the character designed for FFVIII. That game was disliked by many fans. Not saying that Nomura was to blame, it was his idea for a school setting, but awesome character designs doesn't make a game good.

April 14, 2008, 7:57 PM

I agree. Sometimes you can have a great story regardless of the character designs, I think the storyline creators have more to do with what makes a game great than the character designers. True there are some fans out there that lap up the characters, but they aren't the be-all and end-all, regardless of whether it was Nomura or Amano or whoever else that created them. The scriptwriters breathe more life into them that who designs their clothes imo.

April 14, 2008, 10:28 PM

Nomura(And for that matter, Toriyama) are okay. To me, there styles are just... There styles. Of course they look similar.

Sometimes I think I might just be the least complainy gamer out there, you people can't be pleased.

April 14, 2008, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Red_Mage

Nomura(And for that matter, Toriyama) are okay. To me, there styles are just... There styles. Of course they look similar.

Sometimes I think I might just be the least complainy gamer out there, you people can't be pleased.

Nah, I'm not that complain-y either, except when it comes to FF12.

Anyway, I'm kind of indifferent towards Nomura as well. I mean, I thought the school setting in FF8 was on point, and the character designs have been okay even with Yuffie and Aeris's fashion emergencies. I thought the FFX designs were very amazing and appropriate for the game setting, although I'll have to agree that Lulu looked rather out of place. However, I liked her costume on an individual level, however ill-equipped she might be for battle.

I think Nomura could afford to alter his style a bit, but changing your style every game doesn't really make it a style, 'cause it's not consistent.

April 15, 2008, 1:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercurial

No one complains about the actual character designs on FFVII, its everything after that, all the characters look the same, and he destroyed KH2 compared to the the first KH. You can tell Nomura's work straight away, they all have the overused belts and zippers on them. Belts and zippers do not make up a costume, he just can't design to save his life at the moment.
More belts and zippers! More!!

Yarly. I complain about the character development in VII

And you make the excellent point about the belts and zippers. They're the only things you can look at to distinguish between his artwork and any other anime artist.

Now I must say, I do like Axel and Roxas in KH2. But guess wut? I think Axel's design is just okay, and Axel looks like any other boring generic anime character. So now WHY, praytell, do I like them? Because of their personalities. So just to let all you overly defensive Nomura fans know, I'm merely attacking Nomura's designs, what the character looks like, not the personalities. Granted I think alot of the characters he helped design DO have shit personalities (or none at all, like Auron and Kimahri), but in this thread I'm strictly criticizing the looks.

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Originally Posted by Red_Mage

Sometimes I think I might just be the least complainy gamer out there, you people can't be pleased.

We're the customers. It's our jobs to be picky bastards and not settle for less just because it happens to be the mediocre style that's popular atm. I happen to find anime a subpar art style, so naturally I'm going to whine and complain that it's pervaded SE and practically everything else.

April 15, 2008, 2:15 AM

I really was a fan of his work on the ps1 titles. Now I think he's stale and too generic, he ran his course. Time to put him to sleep.

April 15, 2008, 7:25 AM

I Did someone just compare Nomura to Toriyama?!?

Well, whatever...I didn't want to post in here and get all negative because I mostly don't like Nomura's stuff...but I thought some people in here might get a kick outta this...It's someone's (BlackArts) idea of what would have happened if Nomura had designed Crono from Chrono Trigger...on one hand I can see Nomura fans thinking it's awesome, but, I think the intention (and certainly what I take from it) was HILARITY!!!

April 15, 2008, 8:26 AM

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Originally Posted by V_Translanka

I Did someone just compare Nomura to Toriyama?!?

Two of us did, actually

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Well, whatever...I didn't want to post in here and get all negative because I mostly don't like Nomura's stuff...but I thought some people in here might get a kick outta this...It's someone's (BlackArts) idea of what would have happened if Nomura had designed Crono from Chrono Trigger...on one hand I can see Nomura fans thinking it's awesome, but, I think the intention (and certainly what I take from it) was HILARITY!!!

I lol'd.

And then I shuddered in fear. CT character designs were lame enough as it was, since all of them looked like DBZ characters in different palettes. At least Toriyama isn't batshit crazy over belts and zippers though.

I really can't say much for the guy who designed the characters in Chrono Cross though, ugliest character designs I've ever seen. I'd rather have a hundred Nomura characters stuffed into a game than see one of Nobuteru Yuki's characters in a game ever again.

April 15, 2008, 3:23 PM

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Originally Posted by V_Translanka

I Did someone just compare Nomura to Toriyama?!?

Well, whatever...I didn't want to post in here and get all negative because I mostly don't like Nomura's stuff...but I thought some people in here might get a kick outta this...It's someone's (BlackArts) idea of what would have happened if Nomura had designed Crono from Chrono Trigger...on one hand I can see Nomura fans thinking it's awesome, but, I think the intention (and certainly what I take from it) was HILARITY!!!

LMAO! That's pretty accurate right there. I'd send a letter bomb to Nomura if he ever resigned any of the Chrono Trigger characters.

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Originally Posted by ARC-77

CT character designs were lame enough as it was, since all of them looked like DBZ characters in different palettes. At least Toriyama isn't batshit crazy over belts and zippers though.

Aww I liked the character designs in Chrono Trigger! D: They were cute!

Mercurial is right though, Nomura is obsessed with belts and zippers! o_o