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Old July 6, 2007, 1:32 AM   #11
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Natural disasters are powerful forces, but the damage that they wreak is preventative. Most of them are detectable, and when you have a smart person in power, it's easy to clean up the aftermath; if any.

Atomic explosions: again...a powerful force, but without money and power, you can't obtain said explosives.



The most powerful force in the world is a combination of money and power. There's no conquering, overcoming, ruling, or helping without one of the two.

The only force that I can see as being more effective than money or power is intelligence and ambition. Let's take Hitler for example. I don't intend to turn this into a Hitler debate, no. But you have to admit that before the money and power, he was an ambitious man. He was smart enough to fool an entire nation, to conquer his enemies through manipulation, and to have an upper hand over all of Germany. Good god, he was a pathetic genius.
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Old July 6, 2007, 1:40 AM   #12
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What about ambition? The force that make humans do extraordinary things. I change my answer from nature to ambition.
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"use teh force!"
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Old July 6, 2007, 1:43 AM   #14
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Hatred and Greed

How many massacres were caused by merging those feelings?

How many were possessed by hatred and ended doing something bad while being under the influence of rage?

How many betrayed their friends, their family or comrades to fulfill their selfish ambitions?

How much the Earth has been destroyed by the greedy growing humanity?

Also one of the most powerful weapons is knowledge. Without knowledge and imagination, and those who pursued that knowledge,or without the use of that and reason we wouldn't have such things as technology or even religion. Einstein's ideas and theories were used to create the Atomic Bomb, and his formula was used to invent much of the technology that we have.

With knowledge you can both create and destroy, even if it's something as simple as a secret. With the use of words you can destroy a reputation or even strike the hearts of humans with lies filling them with doubt.

Knowledge I say, knowledge is by far the strongest force in the world that can be controlled. I won't include nature because no human can control weather or all the forces of nature (at least for now...who knows what happens in a few centuries).
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Old July 6, 2007, 1:56 AM   #15
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I'd have to go with mankind on this one...

Nature is a good choice, but when it come to mankind, we truly have the power to either flourish and collectively solve our problems or completely annihilate ourselves in less that day.
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Old July 6, 2007, 1:57 AM   #16
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What about ambition? The force that make humans do extraordinary things. I change my answer from nature to ambition.
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The only force that I can see as being more effective than money or power is intelligence and ambition.

That's what I said. :]
Without drive, you won't be motivated to do anything extraordinary.

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Also one of the most powerful weapons is knowledge.
You can't do shit with shit unless you have the know-how.

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Old July 6, 2007, 1:59 AM   #17
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Okay, how about this one? Would you say that love is a powerful force in the world, much more, as elevated to the most powerful?

I would say it is, it controls the minds of people like crazy, I've got to say, because people always want to be loved, no matter what they say. Some people even go to extremes to get love, prompting them to do extreme, sometimes even evil things. And I mean all kinds of love too....you know what I mean.
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Old July 6, 2007, 2:08 AM   #18
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I wouldn't say so Warbourne.
Love is a strong emotion, but it doesn't outweigh ambition, power, or intelligence.

People are programmable.

If you tell someone repetitively to love God; a force who's existence has yet to be proven; you can program someone to have an inexplainable love towards a being that may or may not even be.

Hitler programed Germany to hate Jews, Christians, and opposers of the Aryan allegiance.

You can't program someone to be ambitious. You can teach a person to accept knowledge, yes. You can teach someone that it's good to be outgoing and ambitious, yes.
But you can't teach a person to truely want or have an indescribable need for something for their own personal gain.
If you want it, you want it. If your smart enough to devise a way to reach your own goals, then you can obtain whatever it is that you're after.
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Old July 6, 2007, 2:27 AM   #19
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So, it can be described as instinct, or rather, nature, as someone has already said. Then yes, I quite agree, our nature, and in fact all nature, is what runs all life, as opposed to money which rules all minds.
Put the two together, with nature in the form of human nature, and money, and what happens?
The world of today?
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Old July 6, 2007, 2:34 AM   #20
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Love is a double edge sword, a slightly powerful one, but not enough to be considered a force to be reckon since almost no one truly believes in it. If it were by love, well who knows what could happen but since I know it will never happen, we can't consider love.

I say a double edge sword because love can both destroy and create. Love can save a person or kill it, one way or another. Kingdoms and civilizations were built, destroyed and vanished from the face of the Earth in the name of "love".

And like Nephany said, humans are programmable. If you compare Computers and humans, you will see that in the end, both of them can be easily manipulated and set to do your will.

There are three kinds of human:
Those who are