Playstation 3 situation

December 3, 2007, 10:17 PM

After Black Friday I visited a few Best Buys and other stores around where I live. Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving, huge shopping day. I haven't had luck getting the Guitar Hero III for the Xbox 360 but I have noticed something... In three of the Best Buys I've been to there has been a HUGE stack of PS3. About 16+ PS3 all stacked together. Yet...there aren't any Wii's and only very few Xbox 360s left. (The Xbox systems that were left was the ones with Master Chef.) While checking other electronic stores and department stores for Guitar Hero, I've notice they're full with PS3's as well. Has anyone noticed this?

According to Wikipedia the PS3 has sold 5.59 million copies as of September 30, 07. The Wii - 13.17 Million copies. Xbox 360 - 13.4 copies. (World wide sales by the way.)

So far the only best exclusives for the PS3 is FFXIII and Metal Gear Solid 4. Most of the PS3 games are non-exclusive as well. Folklore got medium ratings, 74 according to Metacritic.

My question is....What do you think about PS3 outcome in the future? Is it really worth paying hundreds of dollars for the system? Do you think Sony will drop the price again? Do you think the PS3 will keep loosing exclusive contracts?

December 3, 2007, 10:34 PM

Heh, no surprise there.

I was reading...in GameInformer I think it was...about Sony's decision to do the price drop on the 40gig version. Some exec was saying how they had to take the backwards compatibility out to make it cheaper, but fans understood it and would prefer a cheaper one with no backwards compatibility.

Well, from a gamer's standpoint, backwards compatibility means ALOT to me. Especially since I don't have alot of room to keep multiple consoles. Sooo...Sony are idiots.

December 3, 2007, 10:35 PM

Well where i live (Canada) its really only 100$ difference between a Xbox 360 (Arcade) and a PS3 40Gb with Spiderman 3 blueray. Now ive heard alot about the Xbox seeing as my friend wont stop bugging me about getting one and ive also had one before i sold it for a laptop because NO ONE was on splinter cell online xD. Anyways I definitly think that PS3 is going to have a better outcome then Xbox in the upcoming years. Much more games are giong to come out very soon and i have a feeling there going to be good. Im getting a PS3 myself and i cant wait to get it. Xbox has pretty much the same games as the PS3 other then a few (Halo3, BioShock, Gears of War to name a few) and those were amazing games but i think that PS3 are soon to come out with games that are better... Thats my opinion anyways

December 4, 2007, 2:45 AM

Oh what?! Seriously they took out the backwards compatibility? You've got to be kidding me for that was the one feature that I was looking forward to when I finally got the dumb console. It's only $399 where I live by the way, which is way cheaper than when we got the 360 about 8 months ago, which was about 500.

December 4, 2007, 2:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cerridwen

What do you think about PS3 outcome in the future?

Yes, I have noticed a lot of stores are well stocked in PS3's and very poorly stocked when it comes to the Wii and XBox 360 consoles.

Meh, it's really hard to say as the system has only been out for a year. However, I think the number of units sold will significantly increase as time goes on and more popular games are released for it. ...I hope. :(

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Originally Posted by Cerridwen

Is it really worth paying hundreds of dollars for the system? Do you think Sony will drop the price again?

No. I never thought it was worth the amount of money they were asking for it, especially when it was first released a year ago. ...Still, $400 for a console that's not backwards compatible is still pretty steep, in my opinion.

I do think they'll drop the price again though. I wouldn't be surprised to see em' below $350 - $300 in a little over a years time.

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Originally Posted by Cerridwen

Do you think the PS3 will keep loosing exclusive contracts?

This is were I think Sony lost big time! As we all know in the past they were the muscle in the gaming industry with the most exclusivity in the gaming industry. Personally, i don't think they anticipated the loss in exclusive game contracts.

Either way, I think it was poor planning and pretty self destructive on the part of Sony exec's with the design of an expensive gaming console and little to no exclusivity on most of the major gaming software designers, especially with everything pretty much going cross platform.

December 4, 2007, 3:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Warbourne

Oh what?! Seriously they took out the backwards compatibility? You've got to be kidding me for that was the one feature that I was looking forward to when I finally got the dumb console. It's only $399 where I live by the way, which is way cheaper than when we got the 360 about 8 months ago, which was about 500.

Yeah, no joke. You gotta get an 80 gig for that now.

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Originally Posted by F. F. Fan

No. I never thought it was worth the amount of money they were asking for it, especially when it was first released a year ago. ...Still, $400 for a console that's not backwards compatible is still pretty steep, in my opinion.

It's idiotic. Even if I did have that kinda money, I wouldn't buy a console that couldn't play my older games.

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This is were I think Sony lost big time! As we all know in the past they were the muscle in the gaming industry with the most exclusivity in the gaming industry. Personally, i don't think they anticipated the loss in exclusive game contracts.

It's because it's so expensive to develop on the PS3. It may be the best piece of hardware out there, but if most developers can't even afford making games for it you're screwed. Plus higher tech games only drives the price up, and there's only so much we gamers can afford. I'd lawl if the PS3 went the way of the Dreamcast, and they will if they don't wise up and stop insulting their customers.

December 5, 2007, 7:44 AM

I do belive, that the PS3 will drop in price after Christmas (prob by Aus $100) and thats pretty decent, seeing as they are a bit above reasonable price now

December 5, 2007, 12:02 PM

I have to say that I'm not suprised at their lack of sales. Lately Sony have been having problems when it comes to their "new" ideas. Look at the Mini Disc....it flopped. Then there was the UMD films.....that flopped. And what I'm seeing with the Blueray, deciding to only use a media that is expensive to produce may be the achilles heel for the PS3. And another thing which annoys me (I'm from UK) is the lack of BC. I still want a PS3 but Sony's not making it easier on themselves with their decisions. And I agree with the total lack of exclusive titles.

December 5, 2007, 10:30 PM

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And another thing which annoys me (I'm from UK) is the lack of BC.

We do get backward-compatibility in the 60G models, it just relies on the library being updated along with the firmware....

Still, I'm getting more heartened as time goes on. Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted and Folklore ( yes, I like repetitive gaming ) all actually have me wanting to buy them, something I couldn't forsee happening before the launch of the next-gen. With games like Disgaea 3, White Knight Story and MGS4 'round the corner, it looks as though the monolith will eventually pick up the pace.

December 5, 2007, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Valandil

And what I'm seeing with the Blueray, deciding to only use a media that is expensive to produce may be the achilles heel for the PS3.

Aye, Sony really isn't doing themselves any favors going for the best stuff. They may be the best as far as tech goes, but they fail to realize that it'll make it more expensive to produce, thus making the costs for consumers exorbitant.

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Originally Posted by Sun And Steel

We do get backward-compatibility in the 60G models, it just relies on the library being updated along with the firmware....

Still, I'm getting more heartened as time goes on. Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted and Folklore ( yes, I like repetitive gaming ) all actually have me wanting to buy them, something I couldn't forsee happening before the launch of the next-gen. With games like Disgaea 3, White Knight Story and MGS4 'round the corner, it looks as though the monolith will eventually pick up the pace.

The 60 GB version is being discontinued though

Ratchet and Clank Future and Metal Gear 4 are the only games I have any interest in. It's likely that Sony will be getting more good games than just those in the future, but as I said in a previous post, the reason they're losing so many third party developers is that it just costs too much to develop for the PS3. If they don't figure out a way to cheapen costs or compensate developers, they're still going to be screwed.