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September 25, 2007, 11:34 AM
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Animal Testing - Right or Wrong?
NO POLITICS. NO FLAMES. JUST MORALS. I WANT THIS TO BE A DISCUSSION.
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Anyway, if the title doesn't make itself apparent, I'm just curious what you all think about animal testing and what should be done about it. Personally, I am completely for animal testing if it is done to save human lives. However, the disgusting people who smother rabbit's eyes with shampoo to make sure that it'll blind them is completely wrong in my opinion. I'll just leave it at that, simply because I don't want to write an essay for you to read just so you can understand the topic.
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September 25, 2007, 1:49 PM
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I am in the same boat as you, SephirothAlpha. It is okay to shampoo a rat just to see if the fur is left all nice and shiny, but it is totaly different to make it go blind. That, my friend, is cruelty to animals. Here in the states we actually have a law that says you could go to jail if you get caught mistreating animals. I think that they have to be domesticated or something. I don't know. Don't get me to lying to ya. But there is a law.
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September 25, 2007, 1:59 PM
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Yeah we have a law in the UK as well, but I bet loop holes exist in the law that say certain people can harm animals if it is for medical purposes.
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September 25, 2007, 2:41 PM
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I am quite strongly against animal testing, though I do accept that it can help to save lives... But it just doesnt seem fair on creatures which seem to have no freewill or choice in the matter. I think it's ridiculous to test make-up and stuff on animals.
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September 25, 2007, 2:44 PM
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I am quite strongly against animal testing, though I do accept that it can help to save lives... But it just doesnt seem fair on creatures which seem to have no freewill or choice in the matter. I think it's ridiculous to test make-up and stuff on animals.
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So you think it should be tested on humans instead?
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September 25, 2007, 2:48 PM
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I don't know... I don't really have a solution, so I guess I can't really diss it too much...
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September 25, 2007, 9:31 PM
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Yeah, I'm sort of split on this one. On the one hand, I really love animals. I don't think products should ever be tested on animals. However, in the case of medical research (AIDS, cancer, etc), I think animal testing is okay. That sort of research can potentially save millions of lives. It's sort of unfortunate that the animals have to suffer :/ But even in medical testing, I don't think animal testing should be taken too lightly. It is essentially torturing/killing a living thing, so it should be reserved for very serious medical research.
I hate how PETA is completely against ANY medical animal testing. Yes, animal rights are important, but finding a cure for an illness like cancer is much more important (at least to me).
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September 26, 2007, 7:25 AM
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Why not test it on humans (I'm one of those damn tree hugging hippies everybody hates) You know animals have feelings to, and their lives are just as important as ours, we are all equal under the Sun, no matter the circumstances, we just happened to be more evolved. If you want to test something, get someone willing to do it, other than getting a poor animal with no say on the topic, and harming it. Even if it is just shampooing, your scaring the poor animal to death. They're probably thinking 'What the hell are these ugly creatures doing?" and they are right, we humans are disgusting, vile creatures only wanting what we want, we don't care how many lives are lost (animal lives) as long as what we want. I don't really care if it is for medical reasons, no matter the outcome, the animal will be deeply affected by it. No matter the organism, we should cherish the life no matter what! (I may go on like this another couple of posts later)
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So you think it should be tested on humans instead?
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I, my friend, say yes! we should find someone willing to go under the testing
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Yeah, I'm sort of split on this one. On the one hand, I really love animals. I don't think products should ever be tested on animals. However, in the case of medical research (AIDS, cancer, etc), I think animal testing is okay. That sort of research can potentially save millions of lives. It's sort of unfortunate that the animals have to suffer :/ But even in medical testing, I don't think animal testing should be taken too lightly. It is essentially torturing/killing a living thing, so it should be reserved for very serious medical research.
I hate how PETA is completely against ANY medical animal testing. Yes, animal rights are important, but finding a cure for an illness like cancer is much more important (at least to me).
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What makes you say that humans are better than animals? Is it that we are more evolved?
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Last edited by Darkstar : September 26, 2007 at 7:48 AM.
Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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September 26, 2007, 9:39 AM
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Remember those tests on human around a year ago that had disasterous results, I think only one guy survived and he was serverely deformed.
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September 26, 2007, 9:44 AM
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